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It's all semantics. "Persuasion" and "manipulation" are just synonyms except for different emotional valences. Like "judgment" vs "discrimination", "patriotism"
by hirundo 8y ago
It's all semantics. "Persuasion" and "manipulation" are just synonyms except for different emotional valences. Like "judgment" vs "discrimination", "patriotism" vs "jingoism", "principled" vs "idealistic". (This is fun. Got more?)
- GavinMcG 8y agoWhy do you dismiss "different emotional valences"? People react differently if they think they're being persuaded vs. manipulated – emotions matter.
- hirundo 8y agoI don't dismiss them. Such differences are both persuasive and manipulative. But I repeat myself.
- GavinMcG 8y agoYou seem to be accusing the author of drawing a distinction without a difference – and yet, you admit the difference and deny the distinction! There is a difference, which you admit, and then contradict.
- deltron3030 8y agoI don't think that's true. Manipulation = influencing the process/behavior directly, persuation = providing a desirable prospect, or the "carrot", and let the protagonist close the gap by herself.
- rfrey 8y agoThe article says they're different: that manipulation degrades the other's decision making process while persuasion does not. You seem to disagree, which is fine. But your argument above to the article's "they're different" amounts to "no they're not". More words, of course, but just a "no".