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There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions (literal plant fertilizer, the shit I brew and inject into my fish

There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions (literal plant fertilizer, the shit I brew and inject into my fish tank to grow plants). What is demonstrable in a lab is going to be much harder to prove for a whole planet. People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people and nothing, absolutely nothing has happened. In addition, we as humans will not be stuck burning CO2 forever, eventually Nuclear and/or Fusion will be perfected to a point that there will be no going back to burning dinosaur oil for fuel.

mullen 8y ago
> There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions Not true at all. We have plenty of evidence that humans are causing the rise of C02 emissions. Just simply look at the C14 (Carbon 14) and C12/13 (Carbon 12 and Carbon 13) ratios in the atmosphere. These give a clear signal what is causing the rise of carbon and where the carbon is coming from. > People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people Yes, and right now, the predictions from the credible scientists are showing to be true. Their predictions were not end of the world in 30-40 years, but we would start to see the effects of climate change, and we are starting to see the effects of climate change.
kerbalspacepro 8y ago
We've actually had more than 100 years of doomsday warnings, that doesn't mean "nothing happened" if each warning is for a specific set of dates. If I say, "There will be a fire in your house in one year" and then in six months I say, "There will be a fire in your house in half-a-year" that doesn't mean my prediction should be devalued. Re: Alternative energy: It doesn't matter if fusion/nuclear/any renewable is "perfected" if Carbon Dioxide is at such high levels that every air conditioning unit needs a CO2 scrubber attached because outdoor the concentration reaches 1000ppm and people's brains literally start to get dumber.
maccard 8y ago
> What is demonstrable in a lab is going to be much harder to prove for a whole planet So what you're saying is that the proof that we have in labs isn't good enough for you? > we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people and nothing, absolutely nothing has happened. What do you classify as nothing? We've shown that the ice caps are melting [0], that temperatures are increasing rapidly across the globe [1], sea walls are being built to stop cities from flooding [2] [3]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8auMIfF50Ng&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8auMIfF50Ng&feature=youtu.be [1] https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ [2] https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/photography/indonesia-sinking-flooding-climate-change-environmental-destruction-photography-a8245601.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/photography... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vj8m0Nqr7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vj8m0Nqr7s
jorisw 8y ago
Something tells me you haven't read the article, much less anything else on the subject.

mullen 8y ago

> There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions Not true at all. We have plenty of evidence that humans are causing the rise of C02 emissions. Just simply look at the C14 (Carbon 14) and C12/13 (Carbon 12 and Carbon 13) ratios in the atmosphere. These give a clear signal what is causing the rise of carbon and where the carbon is coming from. > People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people Yes, and right now, the predictions from the credible scientists are showing to be true. Their predictions were not end of the world in 30-40 years, but we would start to see the effects of climate change, and we are starting to see the effects of climate change.

kerbalspacepro 8y ago

We've actually had more than 100 years of doomsday warnings, that doesn't mean "nothing happened" if each warning is for a specific set of dates. If I say, "There will be a fire in your house in one year" and then in six months I say, "There will be a fire in your house in half-a-year" that doesn't mean my prediction should be devalued. Re: Alternative energy: It doesn't matter if fusion/nuclear/any renewable is "perfected" if Carbon Dioxide is at such high levels that every air conditioning unit needs a CO2 scrubber attached because outdoor the concentration reaches 1000ppm and people's brains literally start to get dumber.

maccard 8y ago

> What is demonstrable in a lab is going to be much harder to prove for a whole planet So what you're saying is that the proof that we have in labs isn't good enough for you? > we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people and nothing, absolutely nothing has happened. What do you classify as nothing? We've shown that the ice caps are melting [0], that temperatures are increasing rapidly across the globe [1], sea walls are being built to stop cities from flooding [2] [3]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8auMIfF50Ng&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8auMIfF50Ng&feature=youtu.be [1] https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/ [2] https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/photography/indonesia-sinking-flooding-climate-change-environmental-destruction-photography-a8245601.html https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/photography... [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vj8m0Nqr7s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vj8m0Nqr7s

jorisw 8y ago

Something tells me you haven't read the article, much less anything else on the subject.