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And research consistently shows that teenagers perform better if you start school later in the day than 7am. E.g., http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0

by gnat 8y ago

And research consistently shows that teenagers perform better if you start school later in the day than 7am. E.g., http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/019263650208663302 http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0192636502086633... "shifted the school start timefrom 7:15 a. m. to 8:40 a. m. This article examines that change, finding significant benefits such as improved attendance and enrollment rates, less sleeping in class, and less student-reported depression." https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15402000701263809 https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/1540200070126380... "Students at the late-starting school reported waking up over 1 hr later on school mornings and obtaining 50 min more sleep each night, less sleepiness, and fewer tardies than students at the early school." https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pol.3.3.62 https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/pol.3.3.62 "Results show that starting the school day 50 minutes later has a significant positive effect on student achievement, which is roughly equivalent to raising teacher quality by one standard deviation."

so33 8y ago
From the article linked in the article: https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/education/i-promise-school-aims-to-educate-the-whole-child-and-their-families-too https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/education/i-promise-school-a... >I Promise kids’ school days will start an hour later than their peers. They’ll also receive an additional hour after school every day called the “illumination period,” which will be a time for extra mentoring, studying or club activities. Not only does the school day start an hour later, the extra time in the day comes from support of extracurricular activities.
stochastic_monk 8y ago
I don’t imagine most working adults would be willing to work starting so early. Why do we force children who need even more sleep to do so?
- xxpor 8y ago
  So that the adults can get to work on time.
  - nojvek 8y ago
    Mostly this ^. As a parent you want to get to work on time. So staggering when school starts is both good for traffic and parents’ sanity.
    - naravara 8y ago
      >Mostly this ^. As a parent you want to get to work on time. So staggering when school starts is both good for traffic and parents’ sanity. Part of it is the assumption that kids can't get to school on their own. I was walking by myself to school when I was 6. And in a lot of places the built environment is such that kids really can't get to school on their own. Schools are either far away, public transit isn't possible, or there just aren't sidewalks, crosswalks, or safe routes to walk. Fortunately the densely built areas don't have most of those problems. As long as the neighborhood kids travel in groups they're fine. And the "I Promise" program gives them their own bicycles and free rides to and from school within 2 miles.
      - nojvek 8y ago
        I walked to school as I was growing up in Nairobi but realize that it’s not possible for my daughter. Nairobi would probably have questionable security compared to the US, but I’m guessing we are probably judged quite harsh here in US. There was just this article other day where a woman faced jail time or massive fines because she left her “not-so-baby” baby in the car. My dad used to leave us in the car all the time with windows open. I can’t do any of that. Mostly because I may end up in jail. That’s the reality of US.
  - moorhosj 8y ago
    More proof of how far down the list of priorities Americans place education.
  - epicureanideal 8y ago
    So why don't we have kids start school at 9, adults start work at 10, kids get out of school at 5 instead of 3, adults get out of work at 6 instead of 5, problem solved???
- mastax 8y ago
  School starts are staggered so the district can use fewer buses (at least they are around here). Middle school at 7:55, High school at 8:35, Elementary at 9:20.
  - SystemOut 8y ago
    Here it's the opposite. Elementary starts earlier than middle school. I actually prefer this because our middle school age kid is fine to get out to the bus on her own. The elementary school twins not as much. I can leave for my train earlier this way.
- jdmichal 8y ago
  Follow the money. In this case, the money is in the bus system. You only need one set of buses and drivers if you stagger school starts. Overlapping school starts means overlapping demand for buses.
lemoncucumber 8y ago
The high school I went to looked into shifting the start time later because of research like this. Unfortunately, they concluded that it wasn't feasible because of after school sports -- our teams play against other high schools in the area, and the timing of that is based on when all the schools start. So if one school wants to start later, its students wouldn't be done in time for sports games and such. Pretty lame.
- coryrc 8y ago
  I'm glad your school is prioritizing what's really important.
- FireBeyond 8y ago
  "The day they cut the football budget in this state, that will be the end of Western Civilization as we know it!" -- Mr Holland's Opus

by gnat 8y ago

so33 8y ago

From the article linked in the article: https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/education/i-promise-school-aims-to-educate-the-whole-child-and-their-families-too https://www.ohio.com/akron/news/education/i-promise-school-a... >I Promise kids’ school days will start an hour later than their peers. They’ll also receive an additional hour after school every day called the “illumination period,” which will be a time for extra mentoring, studying or club activities. Not only does the school day start an hour later, the extra time in the day comes from support of extracurricular activities.

stochastic_monk 8y ago

I don’t imagine most working adults would be willing to work starting so early. Why do we force children who need even more sleep to do so?

xxpor 8y ago
So that the adults can get to work on time.
- nojvek 8y ago
  Mostly this ^. As a parent you want to get to work on time. So staggering when school starts is both good for traffic and parents’ sanity.
  - naravara 8y ago
    >Mostly this ^. As a parent you want to get to work on time. So staggering when school starts is both good for traffic and parents’ sanity. Part of it is the assumption that kids can't get to school on their own. I was walking by myself to school when I was 6. And in a lot of places the built environment is such that kids really can't get to school on their own. Schools are either far away, public transit isn't possible, or there just aren't sidewalks, crosswalks, or safe routes to walk. Fortunately the densely built areas don't have most of those problems. As long as the neighborhood kids travel in groups they're fine. And the "I Promise" program gives them their own bicycles and free rides to and from school within 2 miles.
    - nojvek 8y ago
      I walked to school as I was growing up in Nairobi but realize that it’s not possible for my daughter. Nairobi would probably have questionable security compared to the US, but I’m guessing we are probably judged quite harsh here in US. There was just this article other day where a woman faced jail time or massive fines because she left her “not-so-baby” baby in the car. My dad used to leave us in the car all the time with windows open. I can’t do any of that. Mostly because I may end up in jail. That’s the reality of US.
- moorhosj 8y ago
  More proof of how far down the list of priorities Americans place education.
- epicureanideal 8y ago
  So why don't we have kids start school at 9, adults start work at 10, kids get out of school at 5 instead of 3, adults get out of work at 6 instead of 5, problem solved???
mastax 8y ago
School starts are staggered so the district can use fewer buses (at least they are around here). Middle school at 7:55, High school at 8:35, Elementary at 9:20.
- SystemOut 8y ago
  Here it's the opposite. Elementary starts earlier than middle school. I actually prefer this because our middle school age kid is fine to get out to the bus on her own. The elementary school twins not as much. I can leave for my train earlier this way.
jdmichal 8y ago
Follow the money. In this case, the money is in the bus system. You only need one set of buses and drivers if you stagger school starts. Overlapping school starts means overlapping demand for buses.

lemoncucumber 8y ago

The high school I went to looked into shifting the start time later because of research like this. Unfortunately, they concluded that it wasn't feasible because of after school sports -- our teams play against other high schools in the area, and the timing of that is based on when all the schools start. So if one school wants to start later, its students wouldn't be done in time for sports games and such. Pretty lame.

coryrc 8y ago
I'm glad your school is prioritizing what's really important.
FireBeyond 8y ago
"The day they cut the football budget in this state, that will be the end of Western Civilization as we know it!" -- Mr Holland's Opus