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I don't believe the CO2 levels we currently have (and are projected to have) in the atmosphere is a real threat. I don't believe the doomsday scenarios, apparen

I don't believe the CO2 levels we currently have (and are projected to have) in the atmosphere is a real threat. I don't believe the doomsday scenarios, apparently caused through cow farts and burning natural gas or from combustion engines. Energy must be expended to release CO2, and the energy is almost 0 in comparison to the energy needed to raise sea levels by say, 10 feet. We are talking millions of nuclear bombs worth of energy needed to accomplish that. There is something off with this. I don't believe the tiny amount of CO2 in our atmosphere will enable the sun to heat the planet to the doomsday levels. Predictions were made since the 80s, 90s, 00's that said our coastal cities should be literally destroyed by now... except that they aren't. There are a lot of people who stand to profit from the climate change lobby: professors, alternate energy producers, politicians, government, media. They all want money invested in THEIR pet projects. And conveniently, it serves as a great distraction from issues on the horizon that WILL have a guaranteed negative affect on your children's quality of life, but I wont get into that, since what I'm writing is divisive enough as it is. When it comes to the climate, you will be fine, we will be fine, our kids will be fine, the sky will not fall, the seas will not swallow up our cities (excluding regular weather), America will not become a desert (unless that super-volcano blows). It is sensationalism.

kerbalspacepro 8y ago
1. Carbon Dioxide stores lots of energy 2. The sun provides lots of energy 3. Therefore, carbon dioxide is able to store lots of solar energy 4. We are releasing lots of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere 5. Therefore, the atmosphere's ability to store solar energy is increasing What part of this logic don't you understand or disagree with?
- arglinugs 8y ago
  You seem to have this all figured out then, so let me ask, approximately what point beyond your retirement will all of this happen? And I say "beyond your retirement" because that is the time you will probably give me, a time you won't have to worry about anyone taking you to task on your faulty science.
  - jorisw 8y ago
    What's faulty about his science?
    - arglinugs 8y ago
      There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions (literal plant fertilizer, the shit I brew and inject into my fish tank to grow plants). What is demonstrable in a lab is going to be much harder to prove for a whole planet. People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people and nothing, absolutely nothing has happened. In addition, we as humans will not be stuck burning CO2 forever, eventually Nuclear and/or Fusion will be perfected to a point that there will be no going back to burning dinosaur oil for fuel.
      - mullen 8y ago
        > There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions Not true at all. We have plenty of evidence that humans are causing the rise of C02 emissions. Just simply look at the C14 (Carbon 14) and C12/13 (Carbon 12 and Carbon 13) ratios in the atmosphere. These give a clear signal what is causing the rise of carbon and where the carbon is coming from. > People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people Yes, and right now, the predictions from the credible scientists are showing to be true. Their predictions were not end of the world in 30-40 years, but we would start to see the effects of climate change, and we are starting to see the effects of climate change.
      - kerbalspacepro 8y ago
        We've actually had more than 100 years of doomsday warnings, that doesn't mean "nothing happened" if each warning is for a specific set of dates. If I say, "There will be a fire in your house in one year" and then in six months I say, "There will be a fire in your house in half-a-year" that doesn't mean my prediction should be devalued. Re: Alternative energy: It doesn't matter if fusion/nuclear/any renewable is "perfected" if Carbon Dioxide is at such high levels that every air conditioning unit needs a CO2 scrubber attached because outdoor the concentration reaches 1000ppm and people's brains literally start to get dumber.
kamaal 8y ago
Firstly extinctions aren't rapidly unfolding events. The problem with stating and imagining things in terms of binary outcomes is you can't have a reasonable argument about anything. Most of what is written about Global warming are events that will unfold over long periods of time, but nevertheless should the situation continue, they will eventually come to pass.

kerbalspacepro 8y ago

1. Carbon Dioxide stores lots of energy 2. The sun provides lots of energy 3. Therefore, carbon dioxide is able to store lots of solar energy 4. We are releasing lots of Carbon Dioxide into the atmosphere 5. Therefore, the atmosphere's ability to store solar energy is increasing What part of this logic don't you understand or disagree with?

arglinugs 8y ago
You seem to have this all figured out then, so let me ask, approximately what point beyond your retirement will all of this happen? And I say "beyond your retirement" because that is the time you will probably give me, a time you won't have to worry about anyone taking you to task on your faulty science.
- jorisw 8y ago
  What's faulty about his science?
  - arglinugs 8y ago
    There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions (literal plant fertilizer, the shit I brew and inject into my fish tank to grow plants). What is demonstrable in a lab is going to be much harder to prove for a whole planet. People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people and nothing, absolutely nothing has happened. In addition, we as humans will not be stuck burning CO2 forever, eventually Nuclear and/or Fusion will be perfected to a point that there will be no going back to burning dinosaur oil for fuel.
    - mullen 8y ago
      > There is no proof humans are causing doomsday levels of climate change through CO2 emissions Not true at all. We have plenty of evidence that humans are causing the rise of C02 emissions. Just simply look at the C14 (Carbon 14) and C12/13 (Carbon 12 and Carbon 13) ratios in the atmosphere. These give a clear signal what is causing the rise of carbon and where the carbon is coming from. > People should not just accept what these people say as gospel, we have had 30-40 years of doomsday warnings from these people Yes, and right now, the predictions from the credible scientists are showing to be true. Their predictions were not end of the world in 30-40 years, but we would start to see the effects of climate change, and we are starting to see the effects of climate change.
    - kerbalspacepro 8y ago
      We've actually had more than 100 years of doomsday warnings, that doesn't mean "nothing happened" if each warning is for a specific set of dates. If I say, "There will be a fire in your house in one year" and then in six months I say, "There will be a fire in your house in half-a-year" that doesn't mean my prediction should be devalued. Re: Alternative energy: It doesn't matter if fusion/nuclear/any renewable is "perfected" if Carbon Dioxide is at such high levels that every air conditioning unit needs a CO2 scrubber attached because outdoor the concentration reaches 1000ppm and people's brains literally start to get dumber.

kamaal 8y ago

Firstly extinctions aren't rapidly unfolding events. The problem with stating and imagining things in terms of binary outcomes is you can't have a reasonable argument about anything. Most of what is written about Global warming are events that will unfold over long periods of time, but nevertheless should the situation continue, they will eventually come to pass.