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This is a good solution for general "content filters", but how do you enforce a global filter -- i.e. for illegal content that everyone agrees should not be vis

by hazz99 8y ago

This is a good solution for general "content filters", but how do you enforce a global filter -- i.e. for illegal content that everyone agrees should not be visible? Like CP? If this is not possible, I'm sure the government will find a way to legislate against it, and I'm not sure if I'd want to support it. I say this as a devout proponent of decentralized technology being the future.

Vinnl 8y ago
Is there content that everyone agrees should not be visible? I don't think that holds for CP, for example. Unless, of course, "everyone" means "the majority", or even "a large majority".
dragonwriter 8y ago
> for illegal content that everyone agrees should not be visible? Like CP? If everyone agrees it should not be visible, no one will be posting it; filters, censorship, and moderation address disagreements. Further, even if there is a broad consensus that, say, “child pornography” should not be available, there are disagreements over what constitutes child pornography.
- hazz99 8y ago
  Yeah, by "everyone" I meant the significant majority -- just semantics. It's a very difficult problem. Most people agree that CP is horrible and should be removed. However, what happens when the media turns a very large majority against a certain ideal / content that should still be available, even if people disagree? Who decides what, and how do you enforce it? How is the arbiter of visible content? Until this problem is solved, or somehow sidestepped, I don't believe a decentralized web/social system is possible. I really want to be wrong about this! If anyone reading this has an idea of a solution, please message me!
Steltek 8y ago
Slightly unpalatable solution: Removing anonymity solves the illegal content problem because the police know exactly who to prosecute. Not great for those living in authoritarian countries but also has the possible upside of solving the "influencing foreign elections" problem. I wonder if there's a variant of Zooko's triangle for this. Moderated, anonymous, and decentralized?

by hazz99 8y ago

Vinnl 8y ago

Is there content that everyone agrees should not be visible? I don't think that holds for CP, for example. Unless, of course, "everyone" means "the majority", or even "a large majority".

dragonwriter 8y ago

> for illegal content that everyone agrees should not be visible? Like CP? If everyone agrees it should not be visible, no one will be posting it; filters, censorship, and moderation address disagreements. Further, even if there is a broad consensus that, say, “child pornography” should not be available, there are disagreements over what constitutes child pornography.

hazz99 8y ago
Yeah, by "everyone" I meant the significant majority -- just semantics. It's a very difficult problem. Most people agree that CP is horrible and should be removed. However, what happens when the media turns a very large majority against a certain ideal / content that should still be available, even if people disagree? Who decides what, and how do you enforce it? How is the arbiter of visible content? Until this problem is solved, or somehow sidestepped, I don't believe a decentralized web/social system is possible. I really want to be wrong about this! If anyone reading this has an idea of a solution, please message me!

Steltek 8y ago

Slightly unpalatable solution: Removing anonymity solves the illegal content problem because the police know exactly who to prosecute. Not great for those living in authoritarian countries but also has the possible upside of solving the "influencing foreign elections" problem. I wonder if there's a variant of Zooko's triangle for this. Moderated, anonymous, and decentralized?