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What is this article even about? Sounds to me like simply someone making up a word, "Dweb", in the hope that it'll go into common usage, so they can later clai

What is this article even about? Sounds to me like simply someone making up a word, "Dweb", in the hope that it'll go into common usage, so they can later claim they invented it.

lucideer 8y ago
"dweb" and "dex" have both been used a bit within the d-whatever community (that community being users/advocates of Mastodon/Matrix/DAT/Beaker/Scuttlebutt/IPFS/Peertube), though the latter is more common, and the former is usually used to refer to protocol handlers enabling centralised websites to refer to the decentralised ecosystem, rather than as a name for the ecosystem as a whole. So I don't think they're claiming to invent it. I do find it odd however that it's pretty much a zero-information lead-in article; it doesn't seem like this approach will hook many in unless they already know what they're referring to in advance.
Nition 8y ago
The "Have you ever..." examples aren't exactly the most exciting either. For the first one, we already have Archive.org. For the second one, we already have flash drives. For the third one, well, I'm not sure distributed sites will be a whole lot more stable than traditional ones. Someone still has to be there supporting it.
- RpFLCL 8y ago
  I think they're exciting. Archive.org might let you _see_ an old version of a website but it hardly lets you _use_ an old version of that site. Especially if the site in question is a dashboard-like service or single page application. (Imagine google docs, trello, or an amazon service's dashboard.) This is also true with apps. I had no way to go back to the old version of my feed reader app after they updated it and filled it with ads. Flash drives aren't an option if any of the devices in question is lacking of a USB port. My phone has no way to accept a flash drive without some sort of adapter that I don't own. And you're right that _someone_ still has to be there supporting the app. The goal of the distributed approach is that that someone can be any member of the distributed network. It no longer has to be a single central entity that can vanish without recourse.
hardwaresofton 8y ago
It seems to be the first in a series of blog posts about the distributed web as it sits now. > This is the first post in a series. We’ll introduce projects that cover social communication, online identity, file sharing, new economic models, as well as high-level application platforms. All of this work is either decentralized or distributed, minimizing or entirely removing centralized control. I do agree they're making up a term, but naming/phrasing can change/shift dialogs and the default perspective and is actually important. Whether it's a good use of their time is another thing.
- simen 8y ago
  It's a terrible name. Many of these projects have nothing to do with the web (the three concrete examples cited were two filesharing protocols and one cryptocurrency, none of which are about serving websites). And it's awkward to say.
  - Razengan 8y ago
    It's bringing horrible flashbacks of when "blog" was forced upon us; an ugly, dumb-sounding term that I still try not to acknowledge. "D-net" might have been better.
    - krapp 8y ago
      "Vlog" is even worse. It sounds like someone's about to vomit.
      - MrEldritch 8y ago
        Try actually pronouncing "Dweb." Say it a few times. Really get that mouthfeel. "Vlog" almost sounds cool in comparison.
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imhoguy 8y ago
DHTML came to my mind when I saw the title.
a_imho 8y ago
Absolutely nothing. Which is coincidentally the answer to the question What does Moz://a have to do with any of this? too.

What is this article even about? Sounds to me like simply someone making up a word, "Dweb", in the hope that it'll go into common usage, so they can later claim they invented it.

lucideer 8y ago

"dweb" and "dex" have both been used a bit within the d-whatever community (that community being users/advocates of Mastodon/Matrix/DAT/Beaker/Scuttlebutt/IPFS/Peertube), though the latter is more common, and the former is usually used to refer to protocol handlers enabling centralised websites to refer to the decentralised ecosystem, rather than as a name for the ecosystem as a whole. So I don't think they're claiming to invent it. I do find it odd however that it's pretty much a zero-information lead-in article; it doesn't seem like this approach will hook many in unless they already know what they're referring to in advance.

Nition 8y ago

The "Have you ever..." examples aren't exactly the most exciting either. For the first one, we already have Archive.org. For the second one, we already have flash drives. For the third one, well, I'm not sure distributed sites will be a whole lot more stable than traditional ones. Someone still has to be there supporting it.

RpFLCL 8y ago
I think they're exciting. Archive.org might let you _see_ an old version of a website but it hardly lets you _use_ an old version of that site. Especially if the site in question is a dashboard-like service or single page application. (Imagine google docs, trello, or an amazon service's dashboard.) This is also true with apps. I had no way to go back to the old version of my feed reader app after they updated it and filled it with ads. Flash drives aren't an option if any of the devices in question is lacking of a USB port. My phone has no way to accept a flash drive without some sort of adapter that I don't own. And you're right that _someone_ still has to be there supporting the app. The goal of the distributed approach is that that someone can be any member of the distributed network. It no longer has to be a single central entity that can vanish without recourse.

hardwaresofton 8y ago

It seems to be the first in a series of blog posts about the distributed web as it sits now. > This is the first post in a series. We’ll introduce projects that cover social communication, online identity, file sharing, new economic models, as well as high-level application platforms. All of this work is either decentralized or distributed, minimizing or entirely removing centralized control. I do agree they're making up a term, but naming/phrasing can change/shift dialogs and the default perspective and is actually important. Whether it's a good use of their time is another thing.

simen 8y ago
It's a terrible name. Many of these projects have nothing to do with the web (the three concrete examples cited were two filesharing protocols and one cryptocurrency, none of which are about serving websites). And it's awkward to say.
- Razengan 8y ago
  It's bringing horrible flashbacks of when "blog" was forced upon us; an ugly, dumb-sounding term that I still try not to acknowledge. "D-net" might have been better.
  - krapp 8y ago
    "Vlog" is even worse. It sounds like someone's about to vomit.
    - MrEldritch 8y ago
      Try actually pronouncing "Dweb." Say it a few times. Really get that mouthfeel. "Vlog" almost sounds cool in comparison.
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imhoguy 8y ago

DHTML came to my mind when I saw the title.

a_imho 8y ago

Absolutely nothing. Which is coincidentally the answer to the question What does Moz://a have to do with any of this? too.