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I'm not an expert in keyboard, I'm just a software developer that spends a bunch of time in front of a computer: I had some adjustment period to the new keyboar

by Joky 8y ago

I'm not an expert in keyboard, I'm just a software developer that spends a bunch of time in front of a computer: I had some adjustment period to the new keyboard but now I'm used to it and it feels perfectly fine. What is the problem with "touch-typists" and the new keyboard? Is the layout different in such a way that confuses you? Is it the lack of feedback from the touchbar?

nuggien 8y ago
If you're a vim user the touch bar mbp is pretty much a no-go. Most users just map capslock to escape and they're mostly okay, but if you're like me and like to map capslock to delete, then having to press escape on the touchbar just doesn't work. (i've tried to map some other key to escape, but haven't found anything that feels natural)
- parasubvert 8y ago
  I am a regular vim user (every day) and I really just got used to using ESC on the touchbar. It’s not a big deal. Mis-taps on the touchbar are my main annoyance.
  - ikawe 8y ago
    Have you tried mapping caps lock to escape?
    - parasubvert 8y ago
      Yeah. But I found it didn’t make sense to me, my muscle memory is for my pinky to reach up. Hitting a flat surface was less weird than hitting caps lock.
- johnsonjo 8y ago
  I have a 2016 touchbar MacBook Pro. I’ve been learning vim, but I agree using escape is hard with the touchbar. I ended up mapping “jj” to escape. Seems to work well and keeps my fingers on the home row.
- deepaksurti 8y ago
  I have remapped Caps Lock to Ctrl and Escape to Ctrl + ].
- soziawa 8y ago
  US users can map caps lock to esc an be fine with it, but pretty much the rest of the world uses more characters than english does. Many people use caps lock as a switch to the local keyboard layout. This way you can get the best of both worlds.
- eastof 8y ago
  You know Ctrl + [ is bound to escape doesn't even re-bind. I use a Thinkpad but I won't reach all the way for escape. Ctrl + [ is way easier.
- jsjohnst 8y ago
  I’m a heavy vim user and have not had an issue hitting the escape key past the first couple days as long as I don’t look down.
CountSessine 8y ago
The keys don't have enough tactile feedback. That tricks (my) brain into hitting the keys harder because they instill less confidence. That's exhausting when typing for a few hours. The ESC key issue isn't as bad - I have 'jk' remapped to ESC anyways. But the lack of feedback with the butterfly keys makes my hands feel like I'm setting myself up for repetitive stress injury. The keyboard is just awful. Can anyone honestly say that they prefer the feel of the butterfly keys?
- jen20 8y ago
  Yes. Typing for a whole day on my 2013 MBP would give serious wrist pains. This is not the case on my 2016 MBP.

by Joky 8y ago

nuggien 8y ago

If you're a vim user the touch bar mbp is pretty much a no-go. Most users just map capslock to escape and they're mostly okay, but if you're like me and like to map capslock to delete, then having to press escape on the touchbar just doesn't work. (i've tried to map some other key to escape, but haven't found anything that feels natural)

parasubvert 8y ago
I am a regular vim user (every day) and I really just got used to using ESC on the touchbar. It’s not a big deal. Mis-taps on the touchbar are my main annoyance.
- ikawe 8y ago
  Have you tried mapping caps lock to escape?
  - parasubvert 8y ago
    Yeah. But I found it didn’t make sense to me, my muscle memory is for my pinky to reach up. Hitting a flat surface was less weird than hitting caps lock.
johnsonjo 8y ago
I have a 2016 touchbar MacBook Pro. I’ve been learning vim, but I agree using escape is hard with the touchbar. I ended up mapping “jj” to escape. Seems to work well and keeps my fingers on the home row.
deepaksurti 8y ago
I have remapped Caps Lock to Ctrl and Escape to Ctrl + ].
soziawa 8y ago
US users can map caps lock to esc an be fine with it, but pretty much the rest of the world uses more characters than english does. Many people use caps lock as a switch to the local keyboard layout. This way you can get the best of both worlds.
eastof 8y ago
You know Ctrl + [ is bound to escape doesn't even re-bind. I use a Thinkpad but I won't reach all the way for escape. Ctrl + [ is way easier.
jsjohnst 8y ago
I’m a heavy vim user and have not had an issue hitting the escape key past the first couple days as long as I don’t look down.

CountSessine 8y ago

The keys don't have enough tactile feedback. That tricks (my) brain into hitting the keys harder because they instill less confidence. That's exhausting when typing for a few hours. The ESC key issue isn't as bad - I have 'jk' remapped to ESC anyways. But the lack of feedback with the butterfly keys makes my hands feel like I'm setting myself up for repetitive stress injury. The keyboard is just awful. Can anyone honestly say that they prefer the feel of the butterfly keys?

jen20 8y ago
Yes. Typing for a whole day on my 2013 MBP would give serious wrist pains. This is not the case on my 2016 MBP.