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There’s a lot of things wrong where I live (The USA), including guantanamo bay, invasion of Iraq. I may not support any of those things, but I still contribute

There’s a lot of things wrong where I live (The USA), including guantanamo bay, invasion of Iraq. I may not support any of those things, but I still contribute to taxes and function in society. Choosing to freeze oneself is entirely impractical, even if some parts of one’s society is immoral. That being said, the ethics you mention is not universal. The social credit system may be controversial, but generally a detached western viewpoint is hardly one who can speak to the morality of it on behalf of Chinese people. The only thing objectively inmoral is imposing one’s own moral standards and viewpoints on others.

phyller 8y ago
"The only thing objectively inmoral is imposing one’s own moral standards and viewpoints on others." So the only really moral thing is to a) think that there are no universal moral standards b) universally apply this moral standard of no universal moral standards. You have a great mind to be able to hold both of these thoughts at once, and be able to sincerely express them both in a single sentence. I assume then that you would not have a problem with an Afghani policeman who recently immigrated to your country raping your kids, because that is morally acceptable in his culture [1]? [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-mi...
- SpecialistEMT 8y ago
  Is it really morally acceptable in their country?
celim307 8y ago
Isn't imposing moral standards exactly what China's social credit score is doing?
it_learnses 8y ago
Not supporting those things and being vocal about it is entirely allowed in USA, but not allowed in China. I think your self-contradicting view would change pretty fast if you moved back to China and your social credit somehow took a hit and you couldn't get a job or use transportation as a result.

phyller 8y ago

"The only thing objectively inmoral is imposing one’s own moral standards and viewpoints on others." So the only really moral thing is to a) think that there are no universal moral standards b) universally apply this moral standard of no universal moral standards. You have a great mind to be able to hold both of these thoughts at once, and be able to sincerely express them both in a single sentence. I assume then that you would not have a problem with an Afghani policeman who recently immigrated to your country raping your kids, because that is morally acceptable in his culture [1]? [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-military-abuse.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/23/world/asia/afghanistan-mi...

SpecialistEMT 8y ago
Is it really morally acceptable in their country?

celim307 8y ago

Isn't imposing moral standards exactly what China's social credit score is doing?

it_learnses 8y ago

Not supporting those things and being vocal about it is entirely allowed in USA, but not allowed in China. I think your self-contradicting view would change pretty fast if you moved back to China and your social credit somehow took a hit and you couldn't get a job or use transportation as a result.