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United used to have a feature called "From the Flight Deck" where you could listen to live radio communications between your pilots and air traffic control. Un
by schoen 8y ago
United used to have a feature called "From the Flight Deck" where you could listen to live radio communications between your pilots and air traffic control.
Unfortunately, it's now only available on a few routes and planes:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/922470-consolidated-channel-9-availability-discussion-thread-merged-4.html https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-airlines-mileageplus/...
I found it very comforting to listen to it during an entire flight, because you could find out what the pilots of your flight were actually saying about turbulence and flight conditions, including their ongoing efforts to avoid turbulence purely for passenger comfort. You could also hear from other pilots who had recently flown through the same region, discussing how turbulent it was and how long it was likely to last. Among other things, this can reveal that the pilots are aware of the situation and don't consider it threatening.
Part of the scary thing about turbulence can be wondering "do the pilots realize it's so bumpy?" or "are they concerned about this?" or "what are they doing about it?". Most U.S. flights don't really make a lot of passenger announcements about these questions, but if you listen to the ATC communications, you can get real answers (usually "yes", "not at all", and "trying to get a clearance for a different altitude").
In many regions there's volunteer ground-based coverage for live ATC streams:
https://www.liveatc.net/ https://www.liveatc.net/
It's obviously more complicated to identify the particular ATC region that your flight is in (and then manually change to a different stream every time you're handed off to a different controller!), but if you buy in-flight Internet access, you might be able to listen to some of these communications from the air even if you're not on a United flight with channel 9.
The biggest challenge is that ARTCCs (the high-altitude ATC facilities) have subdivided their airspace into sectors with different frequencies.
For instance if you look at
https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=us-artcc https://www.liveatc.net/feedindex.php?type=us-artcc
you can see the Denver ARTCC (ZDV) is subdivided into more than a dozen different sectors (and there's no guarantee that this list is even complete). So if you wanted to listen to these communications this way, you'd have to take a rather active role in selecting streams and accept that your flight would probably pass through regions with no streaming coverage.
(Edit: for example you might hear "(your flight number), contact Denver center one two eight point three two five, good day" in which case you would want to switch over to the "Denver Center (Sector 14 High): 128.325" stream. If you succeed in switching in time, you should then hear your flight call "Denver, (your flight number) with you at (altitude)". But if you missed this instruction, you might have to spend an inordinately long time listening to random streams in the hope of hearing your flight's callsign, or do significant research on FlightAware to figure out what sector you might be in. Quite a chore compared to United's service...)
- Eugr 8y agoAs a pilot myself, I loved that feature. Too bad they discontinued it, so there is no good reason for me to fly United anymore :)
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- sbuttgereit 8y agoYep. I loved to listen to that communication even as a non-pilot... all the way from the ground where sometimes I could hear the discussions about trying to leave the gate (or getting a gate on arrival if we were late) and all the way in between. I use to go out of my way to fly United just because of that feature. Probably the cheapest value add the airline had, even for the relatively few that probably cared. Oh well....
- jerhinesmith 8y agoListening to the live radio communications on a flight was eye opening. Turbulence aside, I can usually feel when the plane is moving to a new altitude (either up or down), and while I always assumed it was planned, being able to hear the process of the pilot asking for clearance to move, getting clearance, and then feeling the plane rise or fall took all of the fear out of it.
- nasredin 8y agoOff Topic. Listen to the ATC feature (channel 9) on United planes was possibly used by the Sept 11 hijackers.
- drcoopster 8y agoSept 11 hijackers possibly ate at McDonald's. So? You can also listen to ATC with a handheld radio.
- nasredin 8y agoSo it is an interesting fact at least for me. I was reading recently about the attack and the very detailed planning that went into it, especially WRT timing. Also if you a "prepper"/security type dude, listening to ATC for situational awareness is an option.