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I face this issue frequently, and one thing that I find helps is acknowledge what's happening: 1. If you're talking to an actual equal, and you're not sure but
by pmichaud 8y ago
I face this issue frequently, and one thing that I find helps is acknowledge what's happening:
1. If you're talking to an actual equal, and you're not sure but you're trying to be helpful, then prefacing with that is good. "Look, you know way more about your problem than I do, but when you asked for advice [they did ask for the advice, right?] the first dumb idea I had was _____"
2. Sometimes you actually are "above" the other person in the context of the advice you're giving. You're actually just an expert and they aren't, for example. In that case you have a couple options that are context dependent.
One is to just ask: "Do you mind if I give you some unsolicited advice that maybe you already thought of?"
The other is to lampshade it. This works best in cases where the power difference is just objectively obvious. I use this exact phrasing with my daughter: "Do you mind if I patronize you a little? If anyone can patronize anyone it's a father and his daughter, right?" But it works with others as well, for example I'm often in the position of giving life advice to undergrads, and I might say something like "Do you mind if I old-man-patronize you a little? It might be helpful!"
I think most of the weird power dynamics and discomfort come from assuming something is common knowledge when it isn't. It may be true that I'm better than you, and even that each of us knows it, but if we haven't mutually acknowledged it to each other and made it common knowledge, then it'll strike an awkward chord when I act like it's true... unless I put it right out there in common knowledge before I start.
The same is true if we're equals but I'm giving you advice anyway--it's awkward because... maybe I think we're not equals? If I preface with "we're equals, and in fact you know more than I do here because you're the one in the situation" then it's clear where I'm coming from and it's not awkward.
Finally, all the different ways of prefacing above critically give the other person the opportunity to say "actually, no, don't," so they have dignity and agency in the exchange.
- aeontech 8y agoThis is really good advice, thank you.
- asdfman123 8y ago> I think most of the weird power dynamics and discomfort come from assuming something is common knowledge when it isn't. Other weird dynamics and discomfort comes from assuming when something isn't common knowledge when it is. "Have you tried X"? No shit, X is the first thing that I tried.
- pmichaud 8y agoI think this is just another example of lack of common knowledge. Something isn't common knowledge unless everyone knows it and everyone also knows that everyone knows it. "Have you tried X"? No shit, X is the first thing that I tried." is classic lack of common knowledge. You thought trying X being the first thing was common knowledge, but it wasn't, so your "advisor" suggested it. You both knew X is the first thing to try, but he didn't know for sure that you knew that, so he started there. And now you're imagining they think you're an idiot, and it's not in common knowledge that you're an idiot (probably because it's not true), so it rankles. As an advisor I would start this exchange with: "Ok, so I assume you've tried all the normal things like X?" Literally saying you're assuming something both puts the thing in common knowledge and acknowledges that it wasn't before, even though you probably both individually know the thing. "Yes, of course." "Ok, what about..." -- much smoother! "Actually, no! Of course X, now that you say it!" "Great!" -- also much smoother!