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Unless I'm missing something,that kind of masking behaviour is what typically causes me to exit an app and manually give it a low review. Are you saying you are

Unless I'm missing something,that kind of masking behaviour is what typically causes me to exit an app and manually give it a low review. Are you saying you are actively gating the reviews? :-/

lostsock 8y ago
Pretty much exactly what Meriton was just fined AU$3m for today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17649912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17649912
- k__ 8y ago
  As far as I know, the rule is, you can only show the native app-store review dialog once, if the user cancels, you won't get any review ever. So the idea is, to show your own until the user finally decides to review. But now the growth hackers of the world had the brilliant idea to treat bad reviews like "the user isn't ready for a review"
  - dingo_bat 8y ago
    It's good that android doesn't allow this. And it doesn't give a way for the app to find out if I actually rated also. So I just click yes i want to rate. Then come back and continue as usual.
    - k__ 8y ago
      Same with iOS, but I guess chances are good that people don't behave like you. (Even if I also think they should, haha)
  - l9k 8y ago
    Same with browser permissions. Websites would ask you if you're okay with the authorization and only if you answer Yes, they would trigger the browser auth prompt.
k__ 8y ago
Pretty much. Some app-store marketing guru told the startup I'm contracting with, that this is the way to go, because you're pretty much f*cked if you get reviews below 4.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago
  This is an important point. Basically, once some start gaming the system - the others have to follow or they are dead. It's similar to how irregular migration or general screwing over of workers works: if some farmers are paying 'under wages' or some factories are 'undercutting' ... then the others stand to lose business and are sucked into the same practices. It's one thing when a massively successful entity like Amazon does shady stuff, but for most businesses ... it seems to often be kind of a quandary.
  - Kagerjay 8y ago
    everything naturally will gravitate toward people gaming the system. Its not just limited to shopping and reviews. Politics and social media behavior is not too different. If the option exist its going to be exploited, you either follow through or get left in the dust Its sad that this is the way things are done but what can you do about it really? You can't fight every battle you need to pick what matters

Unless I'm missing something,that kind of masking behaviour is what typically causes me to exit an app and manually give it a low review. Are you saying you are actively gating the reviews? :-/

lostsock 8y ago

Pretty much exactly what Meriton was just fined AU$3m for today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17649912 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17649912

k__ 8y ago
As far as I know, the rule is, you can only show the native app-store review dialog once, if the user cancels, you won't get any review ever. So the idea is, to show your own until the user finally decides to review. But now the growth hackers of the world had the brilliant idea to treat bad reviews like "the user isn't ready for a review"
- dingo_bat 8y ago
  It's good that android doesn't allow this. And it doesn't give a way for the app to find out if I actually rated also. So I just click yes i want to rate. Then come back and continue as usual.
  - k__ 8y ago
    Same with iOS, but I guess chances are good that people don't behave like you. (Even if I also think they should, haha)
- l9k 8y ago
  Same with browser permissions. Websites would ask you if you're okay with the authorization and only if you answer Yes, they would trigger the browser auth prompt.

k__ 8y ago

Pretty much. Some app-store marketing guru told the startup I'm contracting with, that this is the way to go, because you're pretty much f*cked if you get reviews below 4.

sonnyblarney 8y ago
This is an important point. Basically, once some start gaming the system - the others have to follow or they are dead. It's similar to how irregular migration or general screwing over of workers works: if some farmers are paying 'under wages' or some factories are 'undercutting' ... then the others stand to lose business and are sucked into the same practices. It's one thing when a massively successful entity like Amazon does shady stuff, but for most businesses ... it seems to often be kind of a quandary.
- Kagerjay 8y ago
  everything naturally will gravitate toward people gaming the system. Its not just limited to shopping and reviews. Politics and social media behavior is not too different. If the option exist its going to be exploited, you either follow through or get left in the dust Its sad that this is the way things are done but what can you do about it really? You can't fight every battle you need to pick what matters