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The article states they have found numerous cases of workers injuring themselves at Amazon warehouses. Let’s hear that number. What percentage of warehouse empl

The article states they have found numerous cases of workers injuring themselves at Amazon warehouses. Let’s hear that number. What percentage of warehouse employees is it? How does it compare to Walmart? Why is everything written these days so stupid? If anything, this an argument for single payer. Your health care should not depend on your job.

cornellwright 8y ago
While I agree that health care shouldn't be tied to your job, employers still have a responsibility for worker safety and should still be responsible for any injuries that happen in their workplace.
- Florin_Andrei 8y ago
  Your comment, and the last part of the one you've replied to, put together, sound almost... European. And I mean that in the best possible way. Source: Grew up in Europe. You can't fake civilization.
- throwaway76543 8y ago
  Sure, but that's handled by subrogation. The liable party has little to do with insurance structures. An employer is liable for injuries even if they aren't providing health care insurance.
jjeaff 8y ago
Single payer, and health care being tied to your job are not mutually exclusive. Take away tax incentives for offering it to employees and make health insurance premiums tax deductible for individuals. I think you would see an overall decrease in health care costs as people become more selective of the plan they choose and then are more careful of the health care costs they incur.
- qudat 8y ago
  I totally agree.
  - nojvek 8y ago
    I don’t understand how Solopreneurs who don’t have the bargaining capability of big tech cos afford healthcare in this country. I’m thinking of quitting my job and going solo but not having a safety net of healthcare makes me really worried. Especially with a toddler.
    - jjeaff 8y ago
      A private plan will be cheaper per person than most any corporate plan, regardless of their negotiating power. Many people think their corporate plan is a great deal, because they are only contributing a small portion to the total cost. The company is picking up the rest of the tab. And if you are going to go solo and plan to live off savings for a while, Marketplace subsidies are based only on income. So even if you have $1m in the bank, you will still get the subsidies. The sweet spot is to make just enough to "not" qualify for your state's medicare program. For a family of 3, depending on where you live, you could make $50k and still get excellent coverage for a few hundred dollars a month.
blub 8y ago
Amazon should also provide safe working conditions, instead of acting like a factory in a banana republic. The fucked up working conditions in Amazon warehouses are well documented at this point. The only question is why they're not getting their asses sued off, especially in such a litigious society. They probably have some arbitration clause in the contract, also making a mockery of the concept of justice, not only worker's safety.
- dillondoyle 8y ago
  Article mentions using temp agencies to add a buffer layer, as one strategy to avoid liability

cornellwright 8y ago

While I agree that health care shouldn't be tied to your job, employers still have a responsibility for worker safety and should still be responsible for any injuries that happen in their workplace.

Florin_Andrei 8y ago
Your comment, and the last part of the one you've replied to, put together, sound almost... European. And I mean that in the best possible way. Source: Grew up in Europe. You can't fake civilization.
throwaway76543 8y ago
Sure, but that's handled by subrogation. The liable party has little to do with insurance structures. An employer is liable for injuries even if they aren't providing health care insurance.

jjeaff 8y ago

Single payer, and health care being tied to your job are not mutually exclusive. Take away tax incentives for offering it to employees and make health insurance premiums tax deductible for individuals. I think you would see an overall decrease in health care costs as people become more selective of the plan they choose and then are more careful of the health care costs they incur.

qudat 8y ago
I totally agree.
- nojvek 8y ago
  I don’t understand how Solopreneurs who don’t have the bargaining capability of big tech cos afford healthcare in this country. I’m thinking of quitting my job and going solo but not having a safety net of healthcare makes me really worried. Especially with a toddler.
  - jjeaff 8y ago
    A private plan will be cheaper per person than most any corporate plan, regardless of their negotiating power. Many people think their corporate plan is a great deal, because they are only contributing a small portion to the total cost. The company is picking up the rest of the tab. And if you are going to go solo and plan to live off savings for a while, Marketplace subsidies are based only on income. So even if you have $1m in the bank, you will still get the subsidies. The sweet spot is to make just enough to "not" qualify for your state's medicare program. For a family of 3, depending on where you live, you could make $50k and still get excellent coverage for a few hundred dollars a month.

blub 8y ago

Amazon should also provide safe working conditions, instead of acting like a factory in a banana republic. The fucked up working conditions in Amazon warehouses are well documented at this point. The only question is why they're not getting their asses sued off, especially in such a litigious society. They probably have some arbitration clause in the contract, also making a mockery of the concept of justice, not only worker's safety.

dillondoyle 8y ago
Article mentions using temp agencies to add a buffer layer, as one strategy to avoid liability