I'm the other way. CS grads are lazy programmers with the mentality that someone else will do it. I am self taught and can usually rig a solution to a problem

I'm the other way. CS grads are lazy programmers with the mentality that someone else will do it. I am self taught and can usually rig a solution to a problem in a few hours. A CS grad will tell you its impossible. Maybe they need to do hackathons, but its like they have been taught to doubt instead of taught to think.