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One application for super capacitors that I always think about is electric planes. These small planes represent a drop in the total fuel consumption of air trav
by gandreani 8y ago
One application for super capacitors that I always think about is electric planes. These small planes represent a drop in the total fuel consumption of air travel. The majority of it is consumed by commercial passenger airlines and shipping.
The second most important metric batteries have to meet is charging time. The lower the time the plane spends on the ground, the better return on investment. Having to wait for a plane to charge is not ideal for airlines. A super capacitor power bank can be charged much faster than a lithium ion battery bank.
The third is power delivery. I haven't calculated the power required to take off, but given the usual 30s "sprint" (not sure what the technical term is here) to take off the rest can be calculated from that. I haven't calculated it yet, but lithium battery packs usually are restricted to Capacity == Power i.e. 1Wh == 1W. With super capacitors that ratio is sometimes 100x that
The downside to super capacitors is even the best ones created so far (in research not commercial) are the graphene ones that loose their power in 12h.
This isn't a deal breaker but it does probably limit a capacitor powered electric plane to 6hour rides max
Hope someone else finds this rambling interesting :)
- nine_k 8y agoI can imagine a hybrid where a super capacitor is used as a booster at takeoff, when power consumption is 5-10 times higher than in horizontal flight. It does not need to keep the charge for a long time, and can be charged right before the flight. It will eliminate many thermal issues with lithium cells at high currents.
- gandreani 8y agoThat would be a good solution for the power delivery problem but not the charging problem
- mrfusion 8y agoCan’t batteries be charged in parralel pretty fast though? I think that’s what tesla is doing with semi charging.
- gandreani 8y agoYes but the limit that I talked about takes into consideration parallel charging. The limit is for each individual cell, so even if each individual cell is charged in parallel it would still take an hour at least to charge You could charge the lithium batteries faster but that negatively impacts the lifetime of the battery
- mrfusion 8y agocouldn’t the plane use 2170 cells like tesla does? In principle it should charge at least as fast as a car on a super charger.