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Here in Vietnam the maternity leave law is also quite generous. I forget the exact details? Six months of pay? Anyway, the result is that most companies requir

Here in Vietnam the maternity leave law is also quite generous. I forget the exact details? Six months of pay? Anyway, the result is that most companies require women to sign a contract saying they won't get pregnant in the first year or two after signing a labor contract. If they do get pregnant then they are fired without benefits.

ezoe 8y ago
If such a contract is valid, I have no trust on Vietnam's law.
- vinceguidry 8y ago
  On the sliding scale of law regimes that try to regulate human labor, going from a universal declaration of labor rights all the way down to chattel slavery, this is rather progressive for that part of the world. Naturally no one in European or Anglophone countries would countenance such a thing, but in Asia this can provide women with a means of self-determination that they didn't have before. I remember reading a book about Britain's service class from the Edwardian era until the end of that culture after WW2. Service class culture replaced something far far worse. And the ugly labor regimes that replaced those were better than the service class. If you had an issue with the way one particular factory treated you, well, there was another one right down the road. If you had an issue with the way your masters treated you, your options for finding better employment were far more restricted. This dynamic caused women to leave the service industry in droves to go work in factories. The classist society in Britain had been fighting a rearguard action to maintain the service legal regime for decades, until WW2 thoroughly annihilated any chance of it ever coming back. Nowadays any time I hear about some crazy contract law, I immediately think about what human agency is being liberated here. Amazon link for the interested: https://www.amazon.com/Servants-Downstairs-History-Britain-Nineteenth/dp/0393241092 https://www.amazon.com/Servants-Downstairs-History-Britain-N...

ezoe 8y ago

If such a contract is valid, I have no trust on Vietnam's law.

vinceguidry 8y ago
On the sliding scale of law regimes that try to regulate human labor, going from a universal declaration of labor rights all the way down to chattel slavery, this is rather progressive for that part of the world. Naturally no one in European or Anglophone countries would countenance such a thing, but in Asia this can provide women with a means of self-determination that they didn't have before. I remember reading a book about Britain's service class from the Edwardian era until the end of that culture after WW2. Service class culture replaced something far far worse. And the ugly labor regimes that replaced those were better than the service class. If you had an issue with the way one particular factory treated you, well, there was another one right down the road. If you had an issue with the way your masters treated you, your options for finding better employment were far more restricted. This dynamic caused women to leave the service industry in droves to go work in factories. The classist society in Britain had been fighting a rearguard action to maintain the service legal regime for decades, until WW2 thoroughly annihilated any chance of it ever coming back. Nowadays any time I hear about some crazy contract law, I immediately think about what human agency is being liberated here. Amazon link for the interested: https://www.amazon.com/Servants-Downstairs-History-Britain-Nineteenth/dp/0393241092 https://www.amazon.com/Servants-Downstairs-History-Britain-N...