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A Georgian Techno Producer Making Music from Prison

21 points by mbaytas 8y ago

toomanybeersies 8y ago
I can't help but think of the movie Berlin Calling, where Paul Kalkbrenner is producing techno while he's staying in a mental hospital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekCz2mg4zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekCz2mg4zM On the topic of the Georgian rave scene: the BBC also did a great segment on the raid of Bassiani and the subsequent protests: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-44999599/georgia-s-rave-revolution https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-44999599/georgia-s-... And we can't forget the massive anti-fascist rave in Berlin just recently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/thousands-from-far-right-and-berlins-techno-scene-face-off-in-rival-rallies https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/thousands-from... I'm not sure what it is about raving that brings people together, but it brings people of all ages, genders, sexual orientations, classes, and races together. I've never found such an inclusive subculture as the rave scene. Even in Palestine (https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3231 https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3231) and Iran (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44777677 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44777677). It's more than just the music, or the party, or the drugs, it's a philosophy of peace and inclusiveness. And I guess that's why people risk so much for it, suffering beatings and jail just to dance. I bloody love it.
- mokash 8y ago
  No one cares who you are on the dancefloor when the techno is thumping. Close your eyes and dance!
- Fnoord 8y ago
  "Rave scene" includes a very broad list of genres. From Wikipedia: "* House (acid house tech house ghetto house hip house electro house progressive house) * Trance (acid trance tech trance progressive trance uplifting trance psychedelic trance) * Hardcore (happy hardcore gabber speedcore digital hardcore) * Hardstyle (dubstyle euphoric hardstyle raw hardstyle jumpstyle) * Breakbeat (breakbeat hardcore big beat acid breaks nu skool breaks) * Drum and bass (drumstep liquid funk neurofunk) * UK garage (speed garage bassline UK funky) * Dub (dub techno dubstep) * Electronica * Dancehall * Moombahton * Moombahcore * Nu-funk * Nu-disco * New Beat * Alternative dance * Industrial dance music" [1] (Not a complete list, for example the genre electroclash [1] appears to be missing, and for purists goa trance is a different style than psytrance/psychedelic trance. It also depends on the time. For example, back in the early 90s there was a lot of different genres being spinned, far more crossover and less defined communities as you can hear e.g. techno and trance being spinned in Goa, India.) I've went to some of these parties when I was younger (ie. not the '10s), and various of these subcultures. How open minded and inclusive they are is going to depend on a lot of factors, including the genre, the people there, the people you talk to, how you say things, and who knows.. the weather? Not an exhaustive list by any means, YMMV. Its also gonna depend on how you behave. What I've found is that there's taboos in every scene. If you're not masculine and/or racist enough, the gabber scene (or whatever it is called now) might not be your cup of tea. If you're not spiritual enough (whatever that may be) or don't smoke pot the psychedelic trance scene might not be your cup of tea. And so on, and so forth. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroclash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroclash
  - toomanybeersies 8y ago
    Your list is also missing glitch and electro swing. I always thought that electro swing and glitch were for computer gaming nerds, but I went to a glitch night a while back and it was actually great. They even managed to slip Marilyn Manson's I Don't Like the Drugs in (it may have been a glitch remix). It was incredible to see everyone raving down to that, we had the whole club singing the chorus. It was a brilliant moment.
- narrator 8y ago
  The politicization of trance music had a very funny moment back on an old mailing list I was on in the early 2000s. Some guy was trying to say that we should be against the Iraq war because we were into trance music and it was part of a wider social justice for all, peace, love unity, respect, etc thing. Someone countered that raves are probably illegal in Iraq and Israel makes really good trance music, so we should support their political aims instead and support the Iraq war.
  - drharby 8y ago
    I absolutely despise politicization of music on the grounds of liberty and freedom of thought. It draws a line that if A (trance raver) then B (toe the line to this political cause) else you are castout. I tangibly witnessed this on an edc vegas page where the admin got drunk with power and just spammed the page with politics. It became a meme on the page within a week. PLUR, unless you disagree with us, lol
doombolt 8y ago
Varg Vikernes of Burzum is doing it for who knows how many years already.
- friendly_chap 8y ago
  I believe he is out now but yes! Been listening to his crazy stuff next to campfires last summer... Epic.
  - synthc 8y ago
    I don't listen to his music, knowing what he did I can't separate the art from the artist.
supuun 8y ago
LOL I'm from georgia

21 points by mbaytas 8y ago

I can't help but think of the movie Berlin Calling, where Paul Kalkbrenner is producing techno while he's staying in a mental hospital: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekCz2mg4zM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nekCz2mg4zM On the topic of the Georgian rave scene: the BBC also did a great segment on the raid of Bassiani and the subsequent protests: https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-44999599/georgia-s-rave-revolution https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-44999599/georgia-s-... And we can't forget the massive anti-fascist rave in Berlin just recently: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/thousands-from-far-right-and-berlins-techno-scene-face-off-in-rival-rallies https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/27/thousands-from... I'm not sure what it is about raving that brings people together, but it brings people of all ages, genders, sexual orientations, classes, and races together. I've never found such an inclusive subculture as the rave scene. Even in Palestine (https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3231 https://www.residentadvisor.net/features/3231) and Iran (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44777677 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-44777677). It's more than just the music, or the party, or the drugs, it's a philosophy of peace and inclusiveness. And I guess that's why people risk so much for it, suffering beatings and jail just to dance. I bloody love it.

mokash 8y ago
No one cares who you are on the dancefloor when the techno is thumping. Close your eyes and dance!
Fnoord 8y ago
"Rave scene" includes a very broad list of genres. From Wikipedia: "* House (acid house tech house ghetto house hip house electro house progressive house) * Trance (acid trance tech trance progressive trance uplifting trance psychedelic trance) * Hardcore (happy hardcore gabber speedcore digital hardcore) * Hardstyle (dubstyle euphoric hardstyle raw hardstyle jumpstyle) * Breakbeat (breakbeat hardcore big beat acid breaks nu skool breaks) * Drum and bass (drumstep liquid funk neurofunk) * UK garage (speed garage bassline UK funky) * Dub (dub techno dubstep) * Electronica * Dancehall * Moombahton * Moombahcore * Nu-funk * Nu-disco * New Beat * Alternative dance * Industrial dance music" [1] (Not a complete list, for example the genre electroclash [1] appears to be missing, and for purists goa trance is a different style than psytrance/psychedelic trance. It also depends on the time. For example, back in the early 90s there was a lot of different genres being spinned, far more crossover and less defined communities as you can hear e.g. techno and trance being spinned in Goa, India.) I've went to some of these parties when I was younger (ie. not the '10s), and various of these subcultures. How open minded and inclusive they are is going to depend on a lot of factors, including the genre, the people there, the people you talk to, how you say things, and who knows.. the weather? Not an exhaustive list by any means, YMMV. Its also gonna depend on how you behave. What I've found is that there's taboos in every scene. If you're not masculine and/or racist enough, the gabber scene (or whatever it is called now) might not be your cup of tea. If you're not spiritual enough (whatever that may be) or don't smoke pot the psychedelic trance scene might not be your cup of tea. And so on, and so forth. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rave [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroclash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroclash
- toomanybeersies 8y ago
  Your list is also missing glitch and electro swing. I always thought that electro swing and glitch were for computer gaming nerds, but I went to a glitch night a while back and it was actually great. They even managed to slip Marilyn Manson's I Don't Like the Drugs in (it may have been a glitch remix). It was incredible to see everyone raving down to that, we had the whole club singing the chorus. It was a brilliant moment.
narrator 8y ago
The politicization of trance music had a very funny moment back on an old mailing list I was on in the early 2000s. Some guy was trying to say that we should be against the Iraq war because we were into trance music and it was part of a wider social justice for all, peace, love unity, respect, etc thing. Someone countered that raves are probably illegal in Iraq and Israel makes really good trance music, so we should support their political aims instead and support the Iraq war.
- drharby 8y ago
  I absolutely despise politicization of music on the grounds of liberty and freedom of thought. It draws a line that if A (trance raver) then B (toe the line to this political cause) else you are castout. I tangibly witnessed this on an edc vegas page where the admin got drunk with power and just spammed the page with politics. It became a meme on the page within a week. PLUR, unless you disagree with us, lol

doombolt 8y ago

Varg Vikernes of Burzum is doing it for who knows how many years already.

friendly_chap 8y ago
I believe he is out now but yes! Been listening to his crazy stuff next to campfires last summer... Epic.
- synthc 8y ago
  I don't listen to his music, knowing what he did I can't separate the art from the artist.

supuun 8y ago

LOL I'm from georgia