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I fail to see the relevance of Iran's example although drawing moral equivalence with a country which has often been decried to belong to "axis of evil" seems c

by nafey 8y ago

I fail to see the relevance of Iran's example although drawing moral equivalence with a country which has often been decried to belong to "axis of evil" seems counter productive

sumedh 8y ago
> I fail to see the relevance of Iran's example If a country wont look at its history why do expect others to look at that country's history?
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- nafey 8y ago
  Maybe in case of Iran due to Islamic fundamentalism people are unwilling to look far back into the history, but the history of India, China, Central Asia, Russia etc. remain woefully unexplored as compared to Roman history.
  - sumedh 8y ago
    All the countries you mentioned are developing, they have better things to do than explore their history although I agree they should do a bit more.
  - pyrale 8y ago
    China and "India" are pretty well documented. Russia, not sure what you refer to here, but few written documents and sparsely populated areas explain the lack of historic research much better than american intent. As for central asia, which civilization are you talking about ?
    - megaman22 8y ago
      Central asia was pretty developed and civilized, when the Silk Road was the central artery of global east-west trade. And before Genghis flattened the Khwarezmians.
- barry-cotter 8y ago
  Iranians are well aware of the length and depth of their history. They’re also very proud of their literary and especially their poetic tradition. The high culture of the Mslim world was Persian speaking for an extremely long time. Urdu, the Muslim register of Hindustani takes its scientific, governmental and administrative vocabulary from Persian. Ottoman “Turkish” is unintelligible to speakers of modern Turkish because of the massive amount of Persian and Arabic vocabulary that was removed under the Young Turks’ language reforms. The language of high culture from Delhi to Baghdad to Konstantiniyye (Constantinople) was Persian. Persian was at least as much the language of the Islamic Golden Age as Arabic.
oh_sigh 8y ago
Are Americans allowed into Iran to do historical research? I know it is only possible to visit as a private citizen with some very restrictive rules(ie have a hired baby-sitter the entire time).
pvaldes 8y ago
"Axis of devil" is just a marketing term in any case.

by nafey 8y ago

I fail to see the relevance of Iran's example although drawing moral equivalence with a country which has often been decried to belong to "axis of evil" seems counter productive

sumedh 8y ago

> I fail to see the relevance of Iran's example If a country wont look at its history why do expect others to look at that country's history?

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nafey 8y ago
Maybe in case of Iran due to Islamic fundamentalism people are unwilling to look far back into the history, but the history of India, China, Central Asia, Russia etc. remain woefully unexplored as compared to Roman history.
- sumedh 8y ago
  All the countries you mentioned are developing, they have better things to do than explore their history although I agree they should do a bit more.
- pyrale 8y ago
  China and "India" are pretty well documented. Russia, not sure what you refer to here, but few written documents and sparsely populated areas explain the lack of historic research much better than american intent. As for central asia, which civilization are you talking about ?
  - megaman22 8y ago
    Central asia was pretty developed and civilized, when the Silk Road was the central artery of global east-west trade. And before Genghis flattened the Khwarezmians.
barry-cotter 8y ago
Iranians are well aware of the length and depth of their history. They’re also very proud of their literary and especially their poetic tradition. The high culture of the Mslim world was Persian speaking for an extremely long time. Urdu, the Muslim register of Hindustani takes its scientific, governmental and administrative vocabulary from Persian. Ottoman “Turkish” is unintelligible to speakers of modern Turkish because of the massive amount of Persian and Arabic vocabulary that was removed under the Young Turks’ language reforms. The language of high culture from Delhi to Baghdad to Konstantiniyye (Constantinople) was Persian. Persian was at least as much the language of the Islamic Golden Age as Arabic.

oh_sigh 8y ago

Are Americans allowed into Iran to do historical research? I know it is only possible to visit as a private citizen with some very restrictive rules(ie have a hired baby-sitter the entire time).

pvaldes 8y ago

"Axis of devil" is just a marketing term in any case.