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> I think it’s important to ask ourselves what we want to accomplish with diversity quotas in the first place. Are we trying to level the playing field for marg
by eadmund 8y ago
> I think it’s important to ask ourselves what we want to accomplish with diversity quotas in the first place. Are we trying to level the playing field for marginalized groups? To bring in the requisite diversity of thought that correlates so strongly with a better bottom line? Or to improve our optics so that when the press writes about our company’s diversity numbers, we look good?
Honestly, I believe it's the last reason. Levelling the playing field would be relatively easy: blind auditions (easy in some fields, like music, more difficult in ours — but doable). I'm really not convinced that diversity of thought has all the benefits we attribute to it. At the end of the day, I think it's fashion: we want to be seen as fashionable, and diversity is in fashion.
Regarding diversity of thought, her example is a great one: 'And look, if you put a gun to my head and asked me, given absolutely identical abilities to do the job, whether I should hire a woman who came from an affluent background, aced her SATs because of access to a stellar prep program and supportive parents, went to a top school and interned at a top tech company over a man who dropped out of high school and worked a bunch of odd-jobs and taught himself to code and had the grit to end up with the requisite skills… I’ll take the man.' I'd take the woman, not because she's a woman, but because she almost certainly has more of the requisite skills than the man in the situation. If they actually have identical relevant skills, then maybe he'd be more interesting, just because he's so unusual, but judging by appearances the woman is more likely to have the skills I'd need.
- effie 8y agoAgreed on the fashion. Hiring both 1) fairly to all candidates and 2) most effectively for the company is a difficult and potentially impossible task. Introducing quotas is an easy "solution" of this problem for the hiring department. However, I do not understand your rationale for hiring the woman. By assumption, both the woman and the man have the same skills. It is the histories of how they got those skills that differ.
- eadmund 8y agoIn the hypothetical example, yes the assumption is that they have equivalent skills. My issue is that in real life you can never assume that two candidates have equal skills (in fact, the odds that they do are negligible); instead you have to make assumptions about the probability of increased skill given various priors. Given standard priors based on my own experience, I'd be more likely to hire the woman in that example. If I actually did know that they were exactly identical skill-wise, it'd be a different story.
- foobarbazbat 8y agoAgree. The woman has shown more consistency and is a better candidate. But if we swapped male for female in this example, I think it would change a lot of people's thinking, and they would lean towards the female dropout. This is the problem we have today.