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I’m not sure where is Microsoft getting their shit together. Last time I checked, Windows 10 is still a shit-show and completely unusable as a workstation. It’

I’m not sure where is Microsoft getting their shit together. Last time I checked, Windows 10 is still a shit-show and completely unusable as a workstation. It’s good as a toy to play Candy Crush, sure (it even comes preinstalled!) but definitely not suitable for real work.

MegaDeKay 8y ago
If you want something better suited for a workstation, then the Enterprise / LTSB versions are what you are after. Better privacy controls and no Candy Crush. A great many people use it for real work every day.
- Rjevski 8y ago
  What’s the price of a license for a single machine? I bet it’s really expensive and rivals the price of a Mac, at which point I’m not sure why you’d go for the Microsoft option (even the Enterprise version has its quirks and isn’t as polished as Mac OS).
  - trynewideas 8y ago
    It's quoted and depends on whether you buy it per user or per device, and the pricing just changed a couple of days ago. But generally it's been $80-$170/year. The per-user licensing allows for installs on multiple devices (5, I think, unless that also recently changed), so it can work out to about $35 per device. The Enterprise licenses used to revert to Pro licenses when the subscription expired, not sure if they still do.
Spooky23 8y ago
I dunno. Just moved about 3,000 CAD engineers to Windows 10 and they are pretty happy. Users of Windows 10 tend to like it. IT people hate it.
- Rjevski 8y ago
  Well I guess if you did a good job as the IT support person then users may like it because you spent time taking the garbage out (no candy crush, cortana, forced reboots, etc) via Group Policies and ponying up for a license that actually allows to disable all that shit. This doesn’t mean it should be considered normal - in fact putting up with this shit sets a precedent that this kind of behaviour from OS developers is deemed acceptable. This also doesn’t mention the other relatively minor issues (which macOS nevertheless gets right) like 3 different visual styles for context menus (on the taskbar, window title bar and an item on your desktop), the mess with two different way to configure the machine (Settings app and Control Panel), etc.

MegaDeKay 8y ago

If you want something better suited for a workstation, then the Enterprise / LTSB versions are what you are after. Better privacy controls and no Candy Crush. A great many people use it for real work every day.

Rjevski 8y ago
What’s the price of a license for a single machine? I bet it’s really expensive and rivals the price of a Mac, at which point I’m not sure why you’d go for the Microsoft option (even the Enterprise version has its quirks and isn’t as polished as Mac OS).
- trynewideas 8y ago
  It's quoted and depends on whether you buy it per user or per device, and the pricing just changed a couple of days ago. But generally it's been $80-$170/year. The per-user licensing allows for installs on multiple devices (5, I think, unless that also recently changed), so it can work out to about $35 per device. The Enterprise licenses used to revert to Pro licenses when the subscription expired, not sure if they still do.

Spooky23 8y ago

I dunno. Just moved about 3,000 CAD engineers to Windows 10 and they are pretty happy. Users of Windows 10 tend to like it. IT people hate it.

Rjevski 8y ago
Well I guess if you did a good job as the IT support person then users may like it because you spent time taking the garbage out (no candy crush, cortana, forced reboots, etc) via Group Policies and ponying up for a license that actually allows to disable all that shit. This doesn’t mean it should be considered normal - in fact putting up with this shit sets a precedent that this kind of behaviour from OS developers is deemed acceptable. This also doesn’t mention the other relatively minor issues (which macOS nevertheless gets right) like 3 different visual styles for context menus (on the taskbar, window title bar and an item on your desktop), the mess with two different way to configure the machine (Settings app and Control Panel), etc.