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All of those false assumptions you made are gleaned from social media headlines and not reality. Family and friends still help you out. Jobs won't fire you beca

All of those false assumptions you made are gleaned from social media headlines and not reality. Family and friends still help you out. Jobs won't fire you because you're sick. Women can take leave for maternity (though they might not be paid). Daycare is not as expensive as you may think. Healthcare is provided by your employer. Now, not all those things are true for everyone but it's true for a lot of us. Quit using the internet as your only source of education.

emodendroket 8y ago
Well sure, if your social milieu is the top fifth, as I would presume it is for most of us here, then these problems do not touch you.
Broken_Hippo 8y ago
Women definitely cannot always take leave for maternity. They can if they work for a place that falls under FMLA rules, but not if they don't. Not being paid is generally equal to not being able to take leave if you are low-income. Healthcare is not always provided by the employer, and the cost may be more than your paycheck if you want a family plan. Literally - I've worked such a job. The weekly cost was more than I brought home working 40 hours a week for a family plan: The individual cost was a very good chunk of the paycheck. This was not a high-paying job. Not only that, but it may be the bare minimum of insurance, rendering it basically major medical only. Lots of places won't do a surgery or screening without your copayment upfront, and this is a real issue. Jobs don't fire you becasue you are sick: They fire you for not having good enough attendance. This includes nearly everything, including you or your children being sick. These aren't abnormal in any sense.
- sureaboutthis 8y ago
  > Women definitely cannot always take leave for maternity. Then they give birth on the job? >Healthcare is not always provided by the employer I never said it was.
Sharlin 8y ago
I wonder if my Internet-mediated viewpoint actually gives me access to a greater diversity of voices than what an average fairly privileged HN commenter is exposed to in their social bubble. Certainly not an unreasonable hypothesis a priori. Not to mention the fact that the least privileged are as underrepresented on the Internet as everywhere else.
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emodendroket 8y ago

Well sure, if your social milieu is the top fifth, as I would presume it is for most of us here, then these problems do not touch you.

Broken_Hippo 8y ago

Women definitely cannot always take leave for maternity. They can if they work for a place that falls under FMLA rules, but not if they don't. Not being paid is generally equal to not being able to take leave if you are low-income. Healthcare is not always provided by the employer, and the cost may be more than your paycheck if you want a family plan. Literally - I've worked such a job. The weekly cost was more than I brought home working 40 hours a week for a family plan: The individual cost was a very good chunk of the paycheck. This was not a high-paying job. Not only that, but it may be the bare minimum of insurance, rendering it basically major medical only. Lots of places won't do a surgery or screening without your copayment upfront, and this is a real issue. Jobs don't fire you becasue you are sick: They fire you for not having good enough attendance. This includes nearly everything, including you or your children being sick. These aren't abnormal in any sense.

sureaboutthis 8y ago
> Women definitely cannot always take leave for maternity. Then they give birth on the job? >Healthcare is not always provided by the employer I never said it was.

Sharlin 8y ago

I wonder if my Internet-mediated viewpoint actually gives me access to a greater diversity of voices than what an average fairly privileged HN commenter is exposed to in their social bubble. Certainly not an unreasonable hypothesis a priori. Not to mention the fact that the least privileged are as underrepresented on the Internet as everywhere else.

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