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Have you been doing TRE in 8 hour intervals? There was a study on this as well, and it turns out a lot of people simply think they are doing TRE, but once they

by rofo1 8y ago

Have you been doing TRE in 8 hour intervals? There was a study on this as well, and it turns out a lot of people simply think they are doing TRE, but once they start writing down exactly what they eat and exactly when, turns out it's far away from TRE. I've always believed in the law of thermodynamics myself - counting just the calories, but I keep an open mind for now until someone can refute it. The blood sugar thing makes sense to me with what I know about melatonin suppressing the insulin - that's a fact. But the rest of the conclusion.. who knows.

coldtea 8y ago
>I've always believed in the law of thermodynamics myself - counting just the calories Counting just the calories ignores second order effect, and diet is all about second order effects. If one could absolutely stick to counting the calories and eating the specified amount, of course one would lose weight. But e.g. a diet of only having 1500 calories of broccoli for 1 year, and one would be ill from lack of tons of nutrients and vitamins (and they'd have stopped much earlier anyway). E.g. if one eats certain kinds of foods, your appetite increases and it's more likely to overeat. Not giving one's self some foods they like, also makes it easier and more tempting to break a diet. And lots of other factors (exercise, hydration, nutrition, and so on) unrelated with counting calories, that still affect what we eat and how we process it.
- barrkel 8y ago
  One / your / it / we: make up your mind on pronoun and stick with it!
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Maybe focus on the content? Any disparity is just on this single sentence: "your appetite increases" (as opposed to "their" or "one's"). "Their" as used across the comment is not meant as the plural possessive. It's instead used as a gender-neutral pronoun (a common use) to avoid repeating "one's" or using "his/hers". It, in "your appetite increases and it's more likely to overeat" etc., refers to the situation/possibility (as in "If they sky's cloudy it's more likely to rain"). It is normal to use different pronouns to refer to different entities. Finally, the "we" at the end is perfectly fitting. It's a generalization, beyond what each individual does.
    - barrkel 8y ago
      It was really distracting to read. The mix - and there was a they in there too - broke focus. Sorry.
      - coldtea 8y ago
        No problem! Though "they" was used as a gender neutral pronoun -- not to change the subject from "one" to some group. E.g. as in: "if one drinks milk, their bones would benefit".
        barrkel 8y ago
        I think once you've chosen "one", you need to stick with it: "if one drinks milk, one's bones would benefit".

by rofo1 8y ago

coldtea 8y ago

>I've always believed in the law of thermodynamics myself - counting just the calories Counting just the calories ignores second order effect, and diet is all about second order effects. If one could absolutely stick to counting the calories and eating the specified amount, of course one would lose weight. But e.g. a diet of only having 1500 calories of broccoli for 1 year, and one would be ill from lack of tons of nutrients and vitamins (and they'd have stopped much earlier anyway). E.g. if one eats certain kinds of foods, your appetite increases and it's more likely to overeat. Not giving one's self some foods they like, also makes it easier and more tempting to break a diet. And lots of other factors (exercise, hydration, nutrition, and so on) unrelated with counting calories, that still affect what we eat and how we process it.

barrkel 8y ago
One / your / it / we: make up your mind on pronoun and stick with it!
- coldtea 8y ago
  Maybe focus on the content? Any disparity is just on this single sentence: "your appetite increases" (as opposed to "their" or "one's"). "Their" as used across the comment is not meant as the plural possessive. It's instead used as a gender-neutral pronoun (a common use) to avoid repeating "one's" or using "his/hers". It, in "your appetite increases and it's more likely to overeat" etc., refers to the situation/possibility (as in "If they sky's cloudy it's more likely to rain"). It is normal to use different pronouns to refer to different entities. Finally, the "we" at the end is perfectly fitting. It's a generalization, beyond what each individual does.
  - barrkel 8y ago
    It was really distracting to read. The mix - and there was a they in there too - broke focus. Sorry.
    - coldtea 8y ago
      No problem! Though "they" was used as a gender neutral pronoun -- not to change the subject from "one" to some group. E.g. as in: "if one drinks milk, their bones would benefit".
      - barrkel 8y ago
        I think once you've chosen "one", you need to stick with it: "if one drinks milk, one's bones would benefit".