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All the Lybians did now was scare American and other Western entrepreneurs from getting anywhere near their domain. I was about to have my new startup set up wi

All the Lybians did now was scare American and other Western entrepreneurs from getting anywhere near their domain. I was about to have my new startup set up with .ly domain, but now I will move to a much friendlier .it domain (in fact, I would stay away from any Muslim country domain, just in case, including .io). Those who say "oh, we don't own the Internet, how arrogant of us to even think we do..." I want to tell you one thing - yes, you can shove those Sharia countries domains to http://ana.ly http://ana.ly. We do OWN the internet, because it is us who create the Internet. This Lybian Alshariff, or whatever his name is, thinks that because his government thinks that those domains are valuable THATS a reason good enough to confiscate and block them from our use. Ok, fine, do it, moron. The only problem is – once you do something as stupid as this you scare all the people AWAY from your domains, making them literally worthless. When they will realize it it will be too late – once scared people of business do not come back.

techsupporter 16y ago
Not to let facts get in the way of a good rant: "I would stay away from any Muslim country domain, just in case, including .io" Are you aware that .io is assigned to the British Indian Ocean Territory, which is "an overseas territory of the United Kingtom?" The registry itself is maintained by two UK-based companies, Internet Computer Bureau PLC and Cable and Wireless.
- andreross 16y ago
  oooops, I spent my life being convinced that .io is Indonesia...thanks for clarification, will put that one back on the white list.
  - ars 16y ago
    Indonesia is .id
    - metageek 16y ago
      And America is .ego.
jacquesm 16y ago
What a terribly shortsighted comment. > We do OWN the internet, because it is us who create the Internet. That's a pretty serious mis-statement of fact right there. You don't OWN the internet because it was 'you' (whoever that is) that created it. The internet is a connection of networks, each of those networks could operate by itself, the fact that we've partitioned the address space in a way that allows us to route packets from 'sharia' ruled countries to the United States, Europe, Asia, Latin America and all of the EU is to our mutual benefit. To suggest that you 'can shove those Sharia countries domains...' is to add insult to injury, nobody there asked for American and EU entrepreneurial types to buy these domains and use them, they are primarily intended for use by those countries nations. To muddy the intentions of TLDs is a questionable practice, how would you feel if Wallmart started to sell stuff under a .edu domain? Those domains are not worthless, they just are what they are, regional TLDs, specifically with the intent to enable each country to govern their own TLD as they see fit. Please also notice that .us is the regional domain for the United States, and not .com , and that it too has its own set of rules.
- andreross 16y ago
  We own the internet in the sense that we create the content and value for those domains, that otherwise would be just a collection of useless characters. How many successful startups do you know that were created by Libyans? And as far as Sharia law goes – I don't care what they do in their own countries, as long as it doesn't touch me in any way. That also means that if touching their domains means risking to loose your business - I would stay away, and every rational Internet entrepreneur would do the same. That's how WE own the Internet in my understanding. Thanks for the .it article, I guess I rushed with assumptions. Governments are governments after all.
  - citricsquid 16y ago
    The majority of the content online is not created by startups, I would wager that the majority of the internet couldn't care less about your little startup circle jerk. To suggest that any single country "owns" or contributes most to the internet is laughable. I never use content created by china, that doesn't mean it's non-existant.
davidw 16y ago
.it is not that 'friendly' either: http://padovachronicles.welton.it/2007/08/18/confronting-the-bureaucratic-beast-registering-an-italian-domain http://padovachronicles.welton.it/2007/08/18/confronting-the...

techsupporter 16y ago

Not to let facts get in the way of a good rant: "I would stay away from any Muslim country domain, just in case, including .io" Are you aware that .io is assigned to the British Indian Ocean Territory, which is "an overseas territory of the United Kingtom?" The registry itself is maintained by two UK-based companies, Internet Computer Bureau PLC and Cable and Wireless.

andreross 16y ago
oooops, I spent my life being convinced that .io is Indonesia...thanks for clarification, will put that one back on the white list.
- ars 16y ago
  Indonesia is .id
  - metageek 16y ago
    And America is .ego.

jacquesm 16y ago

What a terribly shortsighted comment. > We do OWN the internet, because it is us who create the Internet. That's a pretty serious mis-statement of fact right there. You don't OWN the internet because it was 'you' (whoever that is) that created it. The internet is a connection of networks, each of those networks could operate by itself, the fact that we've partitioned the address space in a way that allows us to route packets from 'sharia' ruled countries to the United States, Europe, Asia, Latin America and all of the EU is to our mutual benefit. To suggest that you 'can shove those Sharia countries domains...' is to add insult to injury, nobody there asked for American and EU entrepreneurial types to buy these domains and use them, they are primarily intended for use by those countries nations. To muddy the intentions of TLDs is a questionable practice, how would you feel if Wallmart started to sell stuff under a .edu domain? Those domains are not worthless, they just are what they are, regional TLDs, specifically with the intent to enable each country to govern their own TLD as they see fit. Please also notice that .us is the regional domain for the United States, and not .com , and that it too has its own set of rules.

andreross 16y ago
We own the internet in the sense that we create the content and value for those domains, that otherwise would be just a collection of useless characters. How many successful startups do you know that were created by Libyans? And as far as Sharia law goes – I don't care what they do in their own countries, as long as it doesn't touch me in any way. That also means that if touching their domains means risking to loose your business - I would stay away, and every rational Internet entrepreneur would do the same. That's how WE own the Internet in my understanding. Thanks for the .it article, I guess I rushed with assumptions. Governments are governments after all.
- citricsquid 16y ago
  The majority of the content online is not created by startups, I would wager that the majority of the internet couldn't care less about your little startup circle jerk. To suggest that any single country "owns" or contributes most to the internet is laughable. I never use content created by china, that doesn't mean it's non-existant.

davidw 16y ago

.it is not that 'friendly' either: http://padovachronicles.welton.it/2007/08/18/confronting-the-bureaucratic-beast-registering-an-italian-domain http://padovachronicles.welton.it/2007/08/18/confronting-the...