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Because if you've had any exposure to how conditions were even two generations ago, even people in Flint have it reasonably good - it's the water issue that's o
by sonnyblarney 8y ago
Because if you've had any exposure to how conditions were even two generations ago, even people in Flint have it reasonably good - it's the water issue that's obviously a problem.
> My grandparents grew up without electricity or plumbing, not even a telephone.
> Infant mortality when they were born was 10% for children under the age of 1.
> There was no healthcare.
> There was no retirement/social assistance.
> There was no welfare.
> Many of grandads peers died in brutal wars.
> Epidemic diseases (aka spanish flu etc.) were still common and would wipe out a lot of people.
> There was no right to vote for women. There was no transparency in governance.
> There was no concept of 'worker safety' - people did unbelievably dangerous things. My grandfather worked in a lumber camp in dead winter, cutting down and hauling trees surrounded by others doing the same.
> There was no higher education for regular folk.
> They were white as can be yet faced intense racism as 'dirty Germans' (i.e. two world wars).
> Heck there wasn't even anything made of plastic ... can you imagine!
... I could go on and on ...
Life is incredibly better (materially, maybe not socially) for almost everyone, most of us wouldn't survive two weeks in Victorian-era conditions.
- maym86 8y agoThe point is that doesn't matter or help someone dealing with some unfortunate issue today. It's true but useless information to them coming from someone who doesn't have to deal with it.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoThe issue at hand is 'are things getting better overall, and can we be generally optimistic', this is not about individual situations.
- maym86 8y agoExactly - he gets to look at it like that. A lot of people don't have that privilege.