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Reality Show Fame Is More Lucrative Than an Oxford or Cambridge Education

14 points by okket 8y ago

JeanMarcS 8y ago
I think it needs to be to lure more and more participants in it, no ?
okket 8y ago
I know: "Winning in a lottery is more lucrative than an education." But we are not feeding the next generation around the clock the illusion that they can realistically win the lottery, like with the reality shows.
benaadams 8y ago
But there is a lot less of people on "Love Island" (72 people total in 4 years) than Oxford or Cambridge graduates; so its not particularly a viable route to success. There are probably > 208 lottery winners in the same period; no one would suggest that as a lucrative approach to life. > Frontier also calculated how contestants can best extend their stays: being part of the “original crew” increases your chances of staying for the duration over those who join the cast later. Also being on 44 episodes of one of the country's most popular TV shows; you'd hope would bring some measure of success...
firasd 8y ago
What I've realized over the past couple years while working on my own projects is that I always could use a 'platform'. I wrote a new article? Would be nice to get it to an audience. A social media campaign? Would be nice to get followers. An app? Would be great to have users. And for all the negativity you can aim at reality show celebs, that's what they have to offer. An audience.
robertAngst 8y ago
I think one of the issues with Best In Class education is that students peak too early. What happens to the top students? They get sucked up by the biggest firms that need smart people to figure out answers to problems. They make 100k-250k out of college... and thats it. At those wages, why bother inventing an app/business, you are already working 60 hours a week at your well compensated job.
- zormino 8y ago
  Do we need another app or another disruption to a market without alternatives, driving more disdain for tech and liberalism in America? Not everyone needs to be an entrepreneur. The best that come out of school and get high paying jobs will also continue to get raises and make more money just like everyone else. No industry starts you off at your end game salary at 25. Engineering, business, finance/accoubtibg, law etc will all have people making more and more money throughout their career as they gain experience, specialize, and change positions and ranks.
  - robertAngst 8y ago
    If you are describing it as 'another app', you are right, those people are better off as quarter mil earners. I would guess these types are more ambitious as that. Those that make a serious difference in the world cant do it as a quarter mil a year earner. Fair point on later career experience, but I feel like either situation will teach you immense knowledge.
soVeryTired 8y ago
This article doesn't qualify as news.
illuminati1911 8y ago
This trash is not worth hacker news. What about Kim Kardashian? "Sucking Black Rapper's Dick Is More Lucrative Than an Oxford or Cambridge Education"
smsm42 8y ago
I think the conclusion is clear. We need to create a large framework of state-sponsored reality shows where every person has a chance at better life.

14 points by okket 8y ago

I think it needs to be to lure more and more participants in it, no ?

I know: "Winning in a lottery is more lucrative than an education." But we are not feeding the next generation around the clock the illusion that they can realistically win the lottery, like with the reality shows.

benaadams 8y ago

But there is a lot less of people on "Love Island" (72 people total in 4 years) than Oxford or Cambridge graduates; so its not particularly a viable route to success. There are probably > 208 lottery winners in the same period; no one would suggest that as a lucrative approach to life. > Frontier also calculated how contestants can best extend their stays: being part of the “original crew” increases your chances of staying for the duration over those who join the cast later. Also being on 44 episodes of one of the country's most popular TV shows; you'd hope would bring some measure of success...

firasd 8y ago

What I've realized over the past couple years while working on my own projects is that I always could use a 'platform'. I wrote a new article? Would be nice to get it to an audience. A social media campaign? Would be nice to get followers. An app? Would be great to have users. And for all the negativity you can aim at reality show celebs, that's what they have to offer. An audience.

robertAngst 8y ago

I think one of the issues with Best In Class education is that students peak too early. What happens to the top students? They get sucked up by the biggest firms that need smart people to figure out answers to problems. They make 100k-250k out of college... and thats it. At those wages, why bother inventing an app/business, you are already working 60 hours a week at your well compensated job.

zormino 8y ago
Do we need another app or another disruption to a market without alternatives, driving more disdain for tech and liberalism in America? Not everyone needs to be an entrepreneur. The best that come out of school and get high paying jobs will also continue to get raises and make more money just like everyone else. No industry starts you off at your end game salary at 25. Engineering, business, finance/accoubtibg, law etc will all have people making more and more money throughout their career as they gain experience, specialize, and change positions and ranks.
- robertAngst 8y ago
  If you are describing it as 'another app', you are right, those people are better off as quarter mil earners. I would guess these types are more ambitious as that. Those that make a serious difference in the world cant do it as a quarter mil a year earner. Fair point on later career experience, but I feel like either situation will teach you immense knowledge.

soVeryTired 8y ago

This article doesn't qualify as news.

illuminati1911 8y ago

This trash is not worth hacker news. What about Kim Kardashian? "Sucking Black Rapper's Dick Is More Lucrative Than an Oxford or Cambridge Education"

smsm42 8y ago

I think the conclusion is clear. We need to create a large framework of state-sponsored reality shows where every person has a chance at better life.