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> I find it very strange that, according to this study, Millennials and Gen-Z have more faith in business leaders than in politicians. Maybe if they collectivel

> I find it very strange that, according to this study, Millennials and Gen-Z have more faith in business leaders than in politicians. Maybe if they collectively went out to vote instead of staying at home ... An election is basically a choice between two politicians that proved to be sufficiently politician to be voted for by other politicians. So those are probably the most extreme on the politician spectrum, and it's no wonder why people with no trust in politicians wouldn't vote for any.

humanrebar 8y ago
I think President Trump and the near nomination of Sanders undermines your point.
- gowld 8y ago
  I don't see how a near nomination being held back by the party machine undermines the point. Trump is an interesting case , but not an inspiring one for the Democratic process.
  - stuckinarut 8y ago
    Because Sanders was way too extreme for the DNC. It's entirely the opposite the point the poster made.
mikeash 8y ago
They’re extreme because extremists vote. Who you vote for is secret. The fact that you voted is public. Any politician looking at voter records is going to notice that they’ll get a lot more traction going after old people. Young people stay home, then complain that they aren’t represented. It’s absurd. If you don’t like your choices in the general election, you need to vote in the primaries too. And even if the choices suck, you still need to show up and either choose the lesser evil or at the very least vote for a third party or write in some nonsense or spoil your ballot, so you’re still on record as having voted.
- gowld 8y ago
  Young people might vote more if voter suppression efforts softened up so non-retirees had time to vote.
  - mikeash 8y ago
    That’s certainly a big problem, but there are plenty of people who are able to vote but don’t bother because they feel like nobody represents them.
stuckinarut 8y ago
> So those are probably the most extreme on the politician spectrum not to go down a rabbit hole, but only republicans consistently elect anyone "extreme". The democrats try so hard to cater to moderates republicans that they have completely lost touch with their base and have let the country move further and further to the right. The DNC pretty consistently attacks any candidates left of where they want to be, which is a neo-liberal party.

humanrebar 8y ago

I think President Trump and the near nomination of Sanders undermines your point.

gowld 8y ago
I don't see how a near nomination being held back by the party machine undermines the point. Trump is an interesting case , but not an inspiring one for the Democratic process.
- stuckinarut 8y ago
  Because Sanders was way too extreme for the DNC. It's entirely the opposite the point the poster made.

mikeash 8y ago

They’re extreme because extremists vote. Who you vote for is secret. The fact that you voted is public. Any politician looking at voter records is going to notice that they’ll get a lot more traction going after old people. Young people stay home, then complain that they aren’t represented. It’s absurd. If you don’t like your choices in the general election, you need to vote in the primaries too. And even if the choices suck, you still need to show up and either choose the lesser evil or at the very least vote for a third party or write in some nonsense or spoil your ballot, so you’re still on record as having voted.

gowld 8y ago
Young people might vote more if voter suppression efforts softened up so non-retirees had time to vote.
- mikeash 8y ago
  That’s certainly a big problem, but there are plenty of people who are able to vote but don’t bother because they feel like nobody represents them.

stuckinarut 8y ago

> So those are probably the most extreme on the politician spectrum not to go down a rabbit hole, but only republicans consistently elect anyone "extreme". The democrats try so hard to cater to moderates republicans that they have completely lost touch with their base and have let the country move further and further to the right. The DNC pretty consistently attacks any candidates left of where they want to be, which is a neo-liberal party.