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Overall the gTLDs are a good thing because some of them will become legitimized alternatives to .com for consumers, and thus weaken the power of domain squatter

by fipple 8y ago

Overall the gTLDs are a good thing because some of them will become legitimized alternatives to .com for consumers, and thus weaken the power of domain squatters.

duskwuff 8y ago
> [...] some of them will become legitimized alternatives to .com for consumers [...] Like what? New gTLDs have been around since 2013 -- five years. I can't think of a single one that I'd consider as legitimate as .com. I can, however, think of a bunch that are frequently used for spam and other abuse...
- nasredin 8y ago
  Have faith! The Year of the Alternative gTLD is coming! Any day now...
- fastball 8y ago
  I think .app could have a bright future in the age of web apps. It has only just recently been opened up by Google for public registration[0]. 0: https://get.app/ https://get.app/
  - ChristianBundy 8y ago
    Why do you need a walled garden around your DNS? I'm not sure that involving Google in everything we do is a good idea. I wonder how many websites are served entirely through Google. Browsing with Chrome or Chromium, custom DNS set to 8.8.8.8, domain name from .app, "cached" by AMP, serving an Angular app with Material UI, originally hosted on Google Cloud.
    - Tepix 8y ago
      ... showing Google Maps, using Google Analytics, Google webmaster tools, custom Google search, offering Google payments and some Google docs forms. Google wouldn't even have to index it.. they know everything about it already.
    - fastball 8y ago
      Google has shown they can handle DNS with 8.8.8.8 I trust Google to have the internet's best interests at heart way more than I trust GoDaddy and their ilk.
- yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
  .google? Obviously not generally use, but used quite a bit by Google and entirely trusted for that use.
puranjay 8y ago
On the contrary, these gTLDs have only increased the value of .coms.
- lucb1e 8y ago
  ... and why is that?
  - puranjay 8y ago
    A glut of goods perceived to be lower quality in the market will increase the desirability of the more "exclusive" higher-quality options (in this case, the .coms). Like where I'm in India, Nike is substantially more expensive precisely because there are too many crappy shoes in the market. Nike is more "exclusive" and thus, pricier (and vice versa). Another reason is the low education among ordinary users about the new TLDs. Everyone automatically defaults to assuming that your site is on .com Companies stand to lose a lot of type-in traffic because of this. Which is why as soon as a business becomes large enough, it tries to go for its .com version. But since the .com version is already taken, and the owner knows the growing company wants it, he can dictate a higher price
    - lucb1e 8y ago
      > Nike is substantially more expensive precisely because there are too many crappy shoes in the market. Nike is more "exclusive" and thus, pricier But is Nike expensive because they want to be exclusive, or because there exist other players in the shoe market? For example, I could invent a flying car and sell it at high prices, so it's both a flying car and a status symbol. Then in 20 years, my patent expires and others can make cheaper models, but if I don't change my price, my brand brand will maintain its status symbol. I don't think the availability of other players in the market affects the price. > Everyone automatically defaults to assuming that your site is on .com Yes, but is that new? People already assumed that and this is not caused by gTLDs, so it does not drive the value of .com domains up beyond what they already were.

by fipple 8y ago

Overall the gTLDs are a good thing because some of them will become legitimized alternatives to .com for consumers, and thus weaken the power of domain squatters.

duskwuff 8y ago

> [...] some of them will become legitimized alternatives to .com for consumers [...] Like what? New gTLDs have been around since 2013 -- five years. I can't think of a single one that I'd consider as legitimate as .com. I can, however, think of a bunch that are frequently used for spam and other abuse...

nasredin 8y ago
Have faith! The Year of the Alternative gTLD is coming! Any day now...
fastball 8y ago
I think .app could have a bright future in the age of web apps. It has only just recently been opened up by Google for public registration[0]. 0: https://get.app/ https://get.app/
- ChristianBundy 8y ago
  Why do you need a walled garden around your DNS? I'm not sure that involving Google in everything we do is a good idea. I wonder how many websites are served entirely through Google. Browsing with Chrome or Chromium, custom DNS set to 8.8.8.8, domain name from .app, "cached" by AMP, serving an Angular app with Material UI, originally hosted on Google Cloud.
  - Tepix 8y ago
    ... showing Google Maps, using Google Analytics, Google webmaster tools, custom Google search, offering Google payments and some Google docs forms. Google wouldn't even have to index it.. they know everything about it already.
  - fastball 8y ago
    Google has shown they can handle DNS with 8.8.8.8 I trust Google to have the internet's best interests at heart way more than I trust GoDaddy and their ilk.
yjftsjthsd-h 8y ago
.google? Obviously not generally use, but used quite a bit by Google and entirely trusted for that use.

puranjay 8y ago

On the contrary, these gTLDs have only increased the value of .coms.

lucb1e 8y ago
... and why is that?
- puranjay 8y ago
  A glut of goods perceived to be lower quality in the market will increase the desirability of the more "exclusive" higher-quality options (in this case, the .coms). Like where I'm in India, Nike is substantially more expensive precisely because there are too many crappy shoes in the market. Nike is more "exclusive" and thus, pricier (and vice versa). Another reason is the low education among ordinary users about the new TLDs. Everyone automatically defaults to assuming that your site is on .com Companies stand to lose a lot of type-in traffic because of this. Which is why as soon as a business becomes large enough, it tries to go for its .com version. But since the .com version is already taken, and the owner knows the growing company wants it, he can dictate a higher price
  - lucb1e 8y ago
    > Nike is substantially more expensive precisely because there are too many crappy shoes in the market. Nike is more "exclusive" and thus, pricier But is Nike expensive because they want to be exclusive, or because there exist other players in the shoe market? For example, I could invent a flying car and sell it at high prices, so it's both a flying car and a status symbol. Then in 20 years, my patent expires and others can make cheaper models, but if I don't change my price, my brand brand will maintain its status symbol. I don't think the availability of other players in the market affects the price. > Everyone automatically defaults to assuming that your site is on .com Yes, but is that new? People already assumed that and this is not caused by gTLDs, so it does not drive the value of .com domains up beyond what they already were.