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https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/president-donald-trump-north-korea-terrorism/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/president-donald-tru...

https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/president-donald-trump-north-korea-terrorism/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/20/politics/president-donald-tru... Yes, of saying they "tortured" him, not that they beat him. Like I said, is that totally unreasonable to say? What else would have caused a severe cardiopulmonary event to an otherwise healthy person? There isn't any solid evidence of a suicide attempt. North Korea's official explanation is almost certainly a lie and I don't know what else one can conclude besides coming to a tortured conclusion that North Korea somehow didn't directly cause this man's death under duress in order to assert that Trump must have known this and it was all an elaborate political game of showmanship he was playing. edit: not trying to be snarky.

tptacek 8y ago
No. The same Trump tweet refers directly to the Fox & Friends interview the Warmbiers gave where they said he was physically abused, and that "it looked as if someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth." There is no uncertainty about what Trump meant by "torture"; he was explicitly confirming the Warmbier's claim, made minutes earlier, that Otto Warmbier was physically tortured.
- b22GcijhI9 8y ago
  That is a claim the Warmbier's made, not Trump. That may sound like a meaningless assertion but don't you think it's a stretch to say that he exploited the situation for political gain because he did not correct their story(from a live interview I might add) esp. on Twitter? Even using the word 'torture' at that time doesn't seem unreasonable or part of a conspiracy. What is the proper motive? To get people to label DPRK a terror sponsoring nation? It seems like a very high expectation to place on a president to correct any false narrative being perpetuated or else be party to promoting them for political gain.
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tptacek 8y ago

No. The same Trump tweet refers directly to the Fox & Friends interview the Warmbiers gave where they said he was physically abused, and that "it looked as if someone had taken a pair of pliers and rearranged his bottom teeth." There is no uncertainty about what Trump meant by "torture"; he was explicitly confirming the Warmbier's claim, made minutes earlier, that Otto Warmbier was physically tortured.

b22GcijhI9 8y ago
That is a claim the Warmbier's made, not Trump. That may sound like a meaningless assertion but don't you think it's a stretch to say that he exploited the situation for political gain because he did not correct their story(from a live interview I might add) esp. on Twitter? Even using the word 'torture' at that time doesn't seem unreasonable or part of a conspiracy. What is the proper motive? To get people to label DPRK a terror sponsoring nation? It seems like a very high expectation to place on a president to correct any false narrative being perpetuated or else be party to promoting them for political gain.

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