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> This time it's all about the roving staff, who aren't using OpenSUSE and didn't use Solaris before it. They've always been Windows users and it seems that off

> This time it's all about the roving staff, who aren't using OpenSUSE and didn't use Solaris before it. They've always been Windows users and it seems that officials feel it might be time for a bit of consistency. So my takeaway is that someone at the top was pissed off that he had to use an e-mail client other than Outlook and made a multi-million dollar infrastructure decision based on that.

vetinari 8y ago
> So my takeaway is that someone at the top was pissed off that he had to use an e-mail client other than Outlook and made a multi-million dollar infrastructure decision based on that. Nah, decisions like this are usually greased much better than just by the good feeling of using Outlook again.
swarnie_ 8y ago
I've worked on a number of large rollout projects where multiple vendors have been considered. When you tell a CEO/CFO/CIO that you can bundle OS, updates, productivity tools, communication/colab tools all in to one monthly bill they almost always take the MS route. The predictability of the financing is the key thing helping MS kill it in enterprise. It also helps that 90% of their staff have never known anything else and will need very little training.
- raverbashing 8y ago
  And to be honest they're not wrong (in those aspects)
- moviuro 8y ago
  > very little training That's the worst assuption ever. Not because everyone uses tool X, everyone understands how to make it work properly. Did you ever try to move a picture from a document you got from M. Johnson? You'll get a headache because moving that one picture will fuck up your title formatting in page 13 and the table in page 2. Everyone using MS Office I met could use a good week-long training session about do's and don't's, how to write proper documents, presentations that don't suck, etc.
  - SiempreViernes 8y ago
    Well, the users usually think they don't need training, and isn't that all that counts?

vetinari 8y ago

> So my takeaway is that someone at the top was pissed off that he had to use an e-mail client other than Outlook and made a multi-million dollar infrastructure decision based on that. Nah, decisions like this are usually greased much better than just by the good feeling of using Outlook again.

swarnie_ 8y ago

I've worked on a number of large rollout projects where multiple vendors have been considered. When you tell a CEO/CFO/CIO that you can bundle OS, updates, productivity tools, communication/colab tools all in to one monthly bill they almost always take the MS route. The predictability of the financing is the key thing helping MS kill it in enterprise. It also helps that 90% of their staff have never known anything else and will need very little training.

raverbashing 8y ago
And to be honest they're not wrong (in those aspects)
moviuro 8y ago
> very little training That's the worst assuption ever. Not because everyone uses tool X, everyone understands how to make it work properly. Did you ever try to move a picture from a document you got from M. Johnson? You'll get a headache because moving that one picture will fuck up your title formatting in page 13 and the table in page 2. Everyone using MS Office I met could use a good week-long training session about do's and don't's, how to write proper documents, presentations that don't suck, etc.
- SiempreViernes 8y ago
  Well, the users usually think they don't need training, and isn't that all that counts?