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Twitter: Setting the record straight on shadow banning

30 points by tenpies 8y ago

tenpies 8y ago
> We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). I have no words.
- danso 8y ago
  Yeah, this was a pretty bizarre post. In effect saying "We don't technically shadowban, but we do suppress content in other ways!"
- egfx 8y ago
  The whole second part of the title should be in quotes. It needs an edit.
egfx 8y ago
Yeah they don't shadow ban. Sure, sometimes they will flat out suspend your account from 2009 (without warning) that's been doing the same job for years. @shareU :(
ohhellno 8y ago
> Tweets from bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation should be ranked lower So, people who disagree with Twitter could easily fall into this policy. I am really starting to wonder about who is feeding data into Twitter's censorship system.
- uncoder0 8y ago
  I'm curious too, not sure if this list has changed but this is what I could find: https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/a/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council.html https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/a/2016/announcing-th...
j-c-hewitt 8y ago
What if social media services started offering different versions of reality depending on your political position? So you would pick a faction and you would not see the same suggestions and have completely different search results from if you were in the other faction. Instead of pointlessly sending traffic to outside websites, you could just offer completely fictional news articles geared towards whichever faction you were a part of. Granted, this isn't that different from the situation that exists now but why not just take it all the way? If anything, the news would become more compelling and competitive vis-a-vis other more imaginative content without the need for any grounding whatsoever in fact.
jakobdabo 8y ago
It's time for us tech people move to Mastodon platform, the others will follow eventually.
tartuffe78 8y ago
Anecdata: I don't use Twitter much, but people do send links to me occasionally. Ones from my conservative friends often go to "You are rate limited, please try again" or fail to load. Ones from my liberal friends almost never do.
craftyguy 8y ago
> Tweets from bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation should be ranked lower So, donald trump? Or does he get a free pass to be abusive and divisive but all other users are held to a TOS?
Focalise 8y ago
RIP Twitter. I no longer have any interest.
sonnyblarney 8y ago
That PR reads like a Monty Python skit. "That's a dead bird!" "No it's not, it's just having a little sleep!" etc. etc. etc.
noetic_techy 8y ago
Time to roll out a decentralized alternative.
AnonymousRider 8y ago
Is it just me? Did I just read a blog post that said “We don’t do this thing I’m going to explain how we do the thing we don’t do.”

30 points by tenpies 8y ago

> We do not shadow ban. You are always able to see the tweets from accounts you follow (although you may have to do more work to find them, like go directly to their profile). I have no words.

danso 8y ago
Yeah, this was a pretty bizarre post. In effect saying "We don't technically shadowban, but we do suppress content in other ways!"
egfx 8y ago
The whole second part of the title should be in quotes. It needs an edit.

egfx 8y ago

Yeah they don't shadow ban. Sure, sometimes they will flat out suspend your account from 2009 (without warning) that's been doing the same job for years. @shareU :(

ohhellno 8y ago

> Tweets from bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation should be ranked lower So, people who disagree with Twitter could easily fall into this policy. I am really starting to wonder about who is feeding data into Twitter's censorship system.

uncoder0 8y ago
I'm curious too, not sure if this list has changed but this is what I could find: https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/a/2016/announcing-the-twitter-trust-safety-council.html https://blog.twitter.com/official/en_us/a/2016/announcing-th...

j-c-hewitt 8y ago

What if social media services started offering different versions of reality depending on your political position? So you would pick a faction and you would not see the same suggestions and have completely different search results from if you were in the other faction. Instead of pointlessly sending traffic to outside websites, you could just offer completely fictional news articles geared towards whichever faction you were a part of. Granted, this isn't that different from the situation that exists now but why not just take it all the way? If anything, the news would become more compelling and competitive vis-a-vis other more imaginative content without the need for any grounding whatsoever in fact.

jakobdabo 8y ago

It's time for us tech people move to Mastodon platform, the others will follow eventually.

tartuffe78 8y ago

Anecdata: I don't use Twitter much, but people do send links to me occasionally. Ones from my conservative friends often go to "You are rate limited, please try again" or fail to load. Ones from my liberal friends almost never do.

craftyguy 8y ago

> Tweets from bad-faith actors who intend to manipulate or divide the conversation should be ranked lower So, donald trump? Or does he get a free pass to be abusive and divisive but all other users are held to a TOS?

Focalise 8y ago

RIP Twitter. I no longer have any interest.

sonnyblarney 8y ago

That PR reads like a Monty Python skit. "That's a dead bird!" "No it's not, it's just having a little sleep!" etc. etc. etc.

noetic_techy 8y ago

Time to roll out a decentralized alternative.

AnonymousRider 8y ago

Is it just me? Did I just read a blog post that said “We don’t do this thing I’m going to explain how we do the thing we don’t do.”