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I see these types of comments, and I have a really hard time viewing them as anything but pretty entitled. I mean, yeah, it's unfortunate for those who won't g

I see these types of comments, and I have a really hard time viewing them as anything but pretty entitled. I mean, yeah, it's unfortunate for those who won't get free lunches anymore (I'm currently part of the group that does, although I'm not in the bay area) but it's not like you deserve free food as a perk any more than any other random worker. If it were my company inflicting the decision on me after a record earnings call, yeah, I'd probably be pretty pissed off. But a city trying to make sure a corporation in a public, mixed use space doesn't insulate itself too much from the surrounding economy? There are pretty obviously people who benefit and people who are harmed, but it's not like this is the end of the world, those employees just aren't getting a benefit 99% of other employees in the world don't get either.

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thecommentary 8y ago
Why don't you deserve the free food more? It's a job benefit that the company provides to entice talent (and yeah to keep people at their desks). Do you not deserve the high pay as well any more than any other random worker?
- s73v3r_ 8y ago
  No. I can tell you that most minimum wage workers are working far, far, far harder than most of the people in this board, myself included.
  - briandear 8y ago
    How much revenue is a minimum wage worker generating? There is your answer.
    - s73v3r_ 8y ago
      The answer to that is it doesn't matter.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    And some of them were working in those private cafeterias. Not anymore, though; restaurateurs profits are more important.
someguydave 8y ago
Private corporations on private property should be able to make private contracts with employee as they see fit, without government interference.
- jartelt 8y ago
  If the private corporation didn't like the conditions of the city zoning and development laws, they could build their office elsewhere.
  - stale2002 8y ago
    Or instead we could vote these politicians out of office. There are more techies moving to the bay area every day. Sooner or later those numbers add up and we've got ourselves a real voting bloc.
    - JetSpiegel 8y ago
      So many of them are H1B workers, they don't even vote.
    - nostrademons 8y ago
      These were the politicians that techies voted into office. The politicians that techies voted out of office opposed all development whatsoever - they were the folks that opposed the San Antonio Center development as a whole, and that blocked the North Bayshore redevelopment for over a decade until Googlers actually did form a voting bloc and voted the supervisors opposed to redevelopment out en-masse. There are a surprising number of tech employees who actually do favor smart urbanization, community engagement, and mixed-use developments instead of holing themselves up in their employers and writing code. Tech (and particular Big Tech) has become a lot more extroverted than the days when it was kids who got bullied at recess because they spent all day playing with computers rather than learning social skills. (And IMHO, this is one reason why the industry has become less innovative lately - there are fewer programmers willing to hole themselves up with a computer for years until they solve a hard technical problem, and fewer managers willing to sponsor that kind of work. The Erlich Bachmans are outnumbering the Richard Hendricks.)

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thecommentary 8y ago

Why don't you deserve the free food more? It's a job benefit that the company provides to entice talent (and yeah to keep people at their desks). Do you not deserve the high pay as well any more than any other random worker?

s73v3r_ 8y ago
No. I can tell you that most minimum wage workers are working far, far, far harder than most of the people in this board, myself included.
- briandear 8y ago
  How much revenue is a minimum wage worker generating? There is your answer.
  - s73v3r_ 8y ago
    The answer to that is it doesn't matter.
- icebraining 8y ago
  And some of them were working in those private cafeterias. Not anymore, though; restaurateurs profits are more important.

someguydave 8y ago

Private corporations on private property should be able to make private contracts with employee as they see fit, without government interference.

jartelt 8y ago
If the private corporation didn't like the conditions of the city zoning and development laws, they could build their office elsewhere.
- stale2002 8y ago
  Or instead we could vote these politicians out of office. There are more techies moving to the bay area every day. Sooner or later those numbers add up and we've got ourselves a real voting bloc.
  - JetSpiegel 8y ago
    So many of them are H1B workers, they don't even vote.
  - nostrademons 8y ago
    These were the politicians that techies voted into office. The politicians that techies voted out of office opposed all development whatsoever - they were the folks that opposed the San Antonio Center development as a whole, and that blocked the North Bayshore redevelopment for over a decade until Googlers actually did form a voting bloc and voted the supervisors opposed to redevelopment out en-masse. There are a surprising number of tech employees who actually do favor smart urbanization, community engagement, and mixed-use developments instead of holing themselves up in their employers and writing code. Tech (and particular Big Tech) has become a lot more extroverted than the days when it was kids who got bullied at recess because they spent all day playing with computers rather than learning social skills. (And IMHO, this is one reason why the industry has become less innovative lately - there are fewer programmers willing to hole themselves up with a computer for years until they solve a hard technical problem, and fewer managers willing to sponsor that kind of work. The Erlich Bachmans are outnumbering the Richard Hendricks.)