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Yes, but are you going to do anything about it? If you work at one of the big tech companies in the bay area, chances are you either cannot vote or you're only

Yes, but are you going to do anything about it? If you work at one of the big tech companies in the bay area, chances are you either cannot vote or you're only ever going to vote for the incumbent party, so what does it matter to them if they piss you off?

patejam 8y ago
For the SF locals, it's usually democrats vs democrats, so party affiliation doesn't really matter. Because of this, inucumbents are much more easily voted out of office on the supervisor level (which is where this is coming from). So... vote when you can!
- justinzollars 8y ago
  True. But there are moderates to consider.
- almost_usual 8y ago
  This is true but the Bay Area local democrats will be the majority. Hell, you're pretty much a republican in their eyes as a tech worker. This will continue to be a thing as long as the upper-middle class isolates themselves through Uber / Lyft, fancy restaurants, and private shuttles. What's ironic is there are lot of upper-middle class people who live this lifestyle who aren't in tech but still shit on tech. Tech gets the bad wrap because it's the narrative. We have to start proving people wrong.
  - gamblor956 8y ago
    Part of the problem with tech's rep is the free dinners...the tech community is notoriously insular in the Bay Area in ways it is not in other tech hubs like LA, Boston, NYC, or Austin. It doesn't help that the most visible techies, like Peter Thiel and Vinod Khosla, abuse their tech-derived riches in blatant attempts to remake California into their own fantasy playlands. (This is a problem unique to tech--non-tech billionaires tend to do things like build museums.)
    - jogjayr 8y ago
      > the tech community is notoriously insular in the Bay Area in ways it is not in other tech hubs like LA, Boston, NYC, or Austin That might be because 1. Not as many people move there right out of college to work in the tech industry. This is true in the Bay Area, which means you'll find most of your friends at work 2. The tech industry population just isn't as large in those places (bar maybe NYC). You kind of have to consider a wider friend pool. Having said that, I'd love to make friends in the Bay Area outside tech - I just don't know how. I'm not sure many people make new friends at restaurants or coffee shops though, so I don't see how this new legislation makes tech workers "engage" with the community or whatever. The only engagement happening is between the tech worker's wallet and the restaurant's till.
justinzollars 8y ago
I'm not sure you use the apathy card on me. I've given money to and advocate for Moderates and I was an elected Hillary Clinton Delegate. Personally I encourage you to let @AaronPeskin know how you feel on this matter. He is the "progressive" who introduced this nonsense.
- extralego 8y ago
  “Moderate” politics == corporate donations + laissez-faire - public relations. This policy is just the public relations part. It’s particularly designed to appease local small business owners without having any measurable effect on the corporate profits. This is as moderate as it gets. There’s nothing “progressive” about this nonsense. This is exactly the kind of nitpicking contortions moderates perform when they are trying to address social disparities without social solutions. The issue is systemic and the solutions must be as well. The only decent solutions here are broad corporate regulations like anti-trust for prevention and much higher taxes on the wealthy. This is precisely a result of politicians appeasing local business owners with a public display of affection rather than a real progressive agenda. What could be more moderate than that?
  - justinzollars 8y ago
    Sorry dude, I am what I am. The Trump era has really turned me off to extremism. So I judge policies by their results. San Francisco's "progressivism" has really turned me off because there is just so much failure of policy here. And while we should be talking about anything other than tech cafeterias, we are talking about cafeterias.
JumpCrisscross 8y ago
> you're only ever going to vote for the incumbent party, so what does it matter to them if they piss you off? Primaries!

patejam 8y ago

For the SF locals, it's usually democrats vs democrats, so party affiliation doesn't really matter. Because of this, inucumbents are much more easily voted out of office on the supervisor level (which is where this is coming from). So... vote when you can!

justinzollars 8y ago
True. But there are moderates to consider.
almost_usual 8y ago
This is true but the Bay Area local democrats will be the majority. Hell, you're pretty much a republican in their eyes as a tech worker. This will continue to be a thing as long as the upper-middle class isolates themselves through Uber / Lyft, fancy restaurants, and private shuttles. What's ironic is there are lot of upper-middle class people who live this lifestyle who aren't in tech but still shit on tech. Tech gets the bad wrap because it's the narrative. We have to start proving people wrong.
- gamblor956 8y ago
  Part of the problem with tech's rep is the free dinners...the tech community is notoriously insular in the Bay Area in ways it is not in other tech hubs like LA, Boston, NYC, or Austin. It doesn't help that the most visible techies, like Peter Thiel and Vinod Khosla, abuse their tech-derived riches in blatant attempts to remake California into their own fantasy playlands. (This is a problem unique to tech--non-tech billionaires tend to do things like build museums.)
  - jogjayr 8y ago
    > the tech community is notoriously insular in the Bay Area in ways it is not in other tech hubs like LA, Boston, NYC, or Austin That might be because 1. Not as many people move there right out of college to work in the tech industry. This is true in the Bay Area, which means you'll find most of your friends at work 2. The tech industry population just isn't as large in those places (bar maybe NYC). You kind of have to consider a wider friend pool. Having said that, I'd love to make friends in the Bay Area outside tech - I just don't know how. I'm not sure many people make new friends at restaurants or coffee shops though, so I don't see how this new legislation makes tech workers "engage" with the community or whatever. The only engagement happening is between the tech worker's wallet and the restaurant's till.

justinzollars 8y ago

I'm not sure you use the apathy card on me. I've given money to and advocate for Moderates and I was an elected Hillary Clinton Delegate. Personally I encourage you to let @AaronPeskin know how you feel on this matter. He is the "progressive" who introduced this nonsense.

extralego 8y ago
“Moderate” politics == corporate donations + laissez-faire - public relations. This policy is just the public relations part. It’s particularly designed to appease local small business owners without having any measurable effect on the corporate profits. This is as moderate as it gets. There’s nothing “progressive” about this nonsense. This is exactly the kind of nitpicking contortions moderates perform when they are trying to address social disparities without social solutions. The issue is systemic and the solutions must be as well. The only decent solutions here are broad corporate regulations like anti-trust for prevention and much higher taxes on the wealthy. This is precisely a result of politicians appeasing local business owners with a public display of affection rather than a real progressive agenda. What could be more moderate than that?
- justinzollars 8y ago
  Sorry dude, I am what I am. The Trump era has really turned me off to extremism. So I judge policies by their results. San Francisco's "progressivism" has really turned me off because there is just so much failure of policy here. And while we should be talking about anything other than tech cafeterias, we are talking about cafeterias.

JumpCrisscross 8y ago

> you're only ever going to vote for the incumbent party, so what does it matter to them if they piss you off? Primaries!