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I think Fried is sharp enough to identify talent and bullshit anyway, so he overcame the necessity of this advice through that and the fact that the above advic
by alnayyir 16y ago
I think Fried is sharp enough to identify talent and bullshit anyway, so he overcame the necessity of this advice through that and the fact that the above advice isn't entirely applicable to his case.
- trustfundbaby 16y agowait. what!?!?
- alnayyir 16y agoDo you have a specific part of that, that you take exception with? Replies like "wait. what?!" don't actually contribute to the conversation on YC.News and are functionally, pollution. Also don't use downvotes as an "I disagree" weapon, but rather a way to cull commentary that isn't contributing to the exchange. Much like your own, actually. Confer with http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html http://ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html In the "In Comments" section for more info if you haven't reviewed it already. Thank you.
- trustfundbaby 16y agoAlso don't use downvotes as an "I disagree" weapon, but rather a way to cull commentary that isn't contributing to the exchange --------------------------------------------- I fail to see where that part is reflected in the guidelines. The comment basically contradicted itself enough that I felt that they actually needed to explain themselves further. But as requested I will proceed to write a small thesis on why I think their comment is wrong, if you'll permit me dear protector of hacker news.
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- trustfundbaby 16y ago> I think Fried is sharp enough to identify talent and bullshit anyway, So what you're saying is ... learn to program, unless you are sharp enough to identify talent and 'bullshit' ... How would one identify this innate ability to know that they didn't need to actually learn how to program then? > the above advice isn't entirely applicable to his case. Care to explain why?
- alnayyir 16y agoHe's a pretty prolific writer, if you want to know more about him, just go read. I don't buy into everything he's selling (cf. Rework), but I think there's stuff worth picking out of his brain. I'm not his interlocutor nor his defender. Go read and decide for yourself.
- shadowsun7 16y agoNope this isn't accurate. It's true, but it's not accurate. You have to remember Fried is a web designer. So while he can't design, he has had experience working on things, launching things, talking to developers. And he's willing to put his money where his mouth is - he hired DHH to work on Basecamp, but only after he asked around, looking for help in learning to try to code it himself.
- wtn 16y agoI saw Fried speak at Chicago CocoaHeads, a very technically skilled audience, about two years ago. His presentation was almost entirely a sales pitch for 37signals products, which I thought was very condescending and a missed opportunity.
- jasonfried 16y agoI think you have me confused with someone else. I haven't spoken at a Chicago CocoaHeads conference.
- wtn 16y agoNo, you're wrong. It was a CAWUG user group meeting at the Apple Store in Chicago. There is no way in hell I would mistake you for anyone else. DHH was there as well.
- wtn 16y agoMEETING: Chicago CocoaHeads / CAWUG Tuesday Jan. 13th, 2009 Agenda: - Special Apple Store Presentation: Jason Fried, founder of 37 Signals - adjournment to O'Toole's When: Tuesday, January 13th, 7:00 PM Where: Apple Store Michigan Avenue 679 North Michigan Ave. (at the corner of Huron & Michigan Ave.) (Everyone in the audience was a developer.)
- shadowsun7 16y agoOops, I meant 'so while he can't code*'