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As a software developer, I'm hugely in favor of this. These companies conspire to suppress wages via anti-poaching agreements and H1B lobbying. Not only that, b

As a software developer, I'm hugely in favor of this. These companies conspire to suppress wages via anti-poaching agreements and H1B lobbying. Not only that, but Google, Amazon, and Microsoft are using their size to put software developers and sysadmins out of work, McDonalds-icizing software with proprietary, walled-garden service stacks. The money those three make on their hosting services is coming out of our pockets (see: AWS cost monitoring and optimization is its own role!), but nobody seems to notice or care.

harryVic 8y ago
"Putting sysadmins out of work?" Why not just make computers illegal and use pen and paper to create jobs?
- anothergoogler 8y ago
  You took that out of context, I said "software developers and sysadmins out of work, McDonalds-icizing software with proprietary, walled-garden service stacks." Implying that the result is lower-quality and disempowering of software businesses who aren't Amazon, Google, or Microsoft. So, pen and paper vs. the computer is not a fitting analogy. The PC vs. the mainframe is a better one.
matt_s 8y ago
It appears to me to actually be more complicated to host things in the cloud than buying physical servers and DIY hosting. If anything I think they are deepening the knowledge needed to just operate a basic web app. I don't follow how 'using their size to put ... out of work' follows. Do you have specific examples?
hoffs 8y ago
As a software developer I am against this
- anothergoogler 8y ago
  You must hate money then, because these companies have been caught conspiring to suppress software developer wages. Employee of one or not, you'd be paid more today if they did not control the earnings ceiling for the better part of the past 15 years. Such conspiracy (and anti-competitive practices in general) are enabled by their size, we've known this for at least a century now. Somebody posted an article here just the other day showing how slowly tech salaries have grown. It's not a coincidence.

harryVic 8y ago

"Putting sysadmins out of work?" Why not just make computers illegal and use pen and paper to create jobs?

anothergoogler 8y ago
You took that out of context, I said "software developers and sysadmins out of work, McDonalds-icizing software with proprietary, walled-garden service stacks." Implying that the result is lower-quality and disempowering of software businesses who aren't Amazon, Google, or Microsoft. So, pen and paper vs. the computer is not a fitting analogy. The PC vs. the mainframe is a better one.

matt_s 8y ago

It appears to me to actually be more complicated to host things in the cloud than buying physical servers and DIY hosting. If anything I think they are deepening the knowledge needed to just operate a basic web app. I don't follow how 'using their size to put ... out of work' follows. Do you have specific examples?

hoffs 8y ago

As a software developer I am against this

anothergoogler 8y ago
You must hate money then, because these companies have been caught conspiring to suppress software developer wages. Employee of one or not, you'd be paid more today if they did not control the earnings ceiling for the better part of the past 15 years. Such conspiracy (and anti-competitive practices in general) are enabled by their size, we've known this for at least a century now. Somebody posted an article here just the other day showing how slowly tech salaries have grown. It's not a coincidence.