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The textbook industry is well known for its shady practices that go beyond "just doing business." Try this: https://www.edutopia.org/textbook-publishing-controv

The textbook industry is well known for its shady practices that go beyond "just doing business." Try this: https://www.edutopia.org/textbook-publishing-controversy https://www.edutopia.org/textbook-publishing-controversy

ProAm 8y ago
Most industries have practices that can be considered shady. It's not unique to the text book industry is my point.
- mercer 8y ago
  I don't get your point? It's common so we shouldn't discuss or challenge it?
  - ProAm 8y ago
    We can discuss and challenge it but dont be surprised at how pervasive the practice is, the OP seem appalled and shocked this could even happen.
    - mercer 8y ago
      Isn't that a good thing, then? I feel there's already way too little 'appalled and shocked' going on because we just roll over and adapt.
- tivert 8y ago
  >>> It's just business. Every business does it. Get used to it. >> The textbook industry is well known for its shady practices that go beyond "just doing business." > Most industries have practices that can be considered shady. It's not unique to the text book industry is my point. Ah, the famous "I claim everyone's doing it without proof, so it's OK" argument.
  - ProAm 8y ago
    > Ah, the famous "I claim everyone's doing it without proof, so it's OK" argument. Being OK, and something happening all the time are different arguments. Im just saying it happens everywhere, not OK but also unavoidable.
    - tivert 8y ago
      > Im just saying it happens everywhere, not OK but also unavoidable. You're saying such behavior should be accepted and left without comment, because you claim "everyone's doing it." At best, that's and argument for apathy that rejects the idea that progress is possible.
      - ProAm 8y ago
        It's accepted everyday by people everywhere now.
        tivert 8y ago
        > It's accepted everyday by people everywhere now. What are you trying to accomplish by saying stuff like this? The subject of your sentence is "corruption and shady behavior." It's false that corruption and shady behavior are "accepted everyday by people everywhere now" without extraordinary evidence that you fail to provide. That is, unless when you say "accepted" you mean "endured," and you just chose your words poorly.
    - kup0 8y ago
      "It's just business" sounds like a justification, where you're trying to say it is okay, which may be where people are inferring that from- even if it was not intended Even in your further explanations of your repeated use of the phrase, you continue to say things like "it's not corrupt, it's just business". That makes no sense. Something can be both. These are not the same thing. Business is not always corrupt, and corruption isn't always "just business" A view that "much of business is corrupt" may be true but there is no nuance in your (confusing) statements.

ProAm 8y ago

Most industries have practices that can be considered shady. It's not unique to the text book industry is my point.

mercer 8y ago
I don't get your point? It's common so we shouldn't discuss or challenge it?
- ProAm 8y ago
  We can discuss and challenge it but dont be surprised at how pervasive the practice is, the OP seem appalled and shocked this could even happen.
  - mercer 8y ago
    Isn't that a good thing, then? I feel there's already way too little 'appalled and shocked' going on because we just roll over and adapt.
tivert 8y ago
>>> It's just business. Every business does it. Get used to it. >> The textbook industry is well known for its shady practices that go beyond "just doing business." > Most industries have practices that can be considered shady. It's not unique to the text book industry is my point. Ah, the famous "I claim everyone's doing it without proof, so it's OK" argument.
- ProAm 8y ago
  > Ah, the famous "I claim everyone's doing it without proof, so it's OK" argument. Being OK, and something happening all the time are different arguments. Im just saying it happens everywhere, not OK but also unavoidable.
  - tivert 8y ago
    > Im just saying it happens everywhere, not OK but also unavoidable. You're saying such behavior should be accepted and left without comment, because you claim "everyone's doing it." At best, that's and argument for apathy that rejects the idea that progress is possible.
    - ProAm 8y ago
      It's accepted everyday by people everywhere now.
      - tivert 8y ago
        > It's accepted everyday by people everywhere now. What are you trying to accomplish by saying stuff like this? The subject of your sentence is "corruption and shady behavior." It's false that corruption and shady behavior are "accepted everyday by people everywhere now" without extraordinary evidence that you fail to provide. That is, unless when you say "accepted" you mean "endured," and you just chose your words poorly.
  - kup0 8y ago
    "It's just business" sounds like a justification, where you're trying to say it is okay, which may be where people are inferring that from- even if it was not intended Even in your further explanations of your repeated use of the phrase, you continue to say things like "it's not corrupt, it's just business". That makes no sense. Something can be both. These are not the same thing. Business is not always corrupt, and corruption isn't always "just business" A view that "much of business is corrupt" may be true but there is no nuance in your (confusing) statements.