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Interestingly, most accidents occur below the speed limit and increasing speed limits decrease accidents, because limits are artificially low and thus almost no
by fleitz 16y ago
Interestingly, most accidents occur below the speed limit and increasing speed limits decrease accidents, because limits are artificially low and thus almost no one heeds them, except for a few people who do who cause accidents because accidents happen when the variability of speed is greatest.
http://sense.bc.ca/disc/disc-09.htm http://sense.bc.ca/disc/disc-09.htm
What speeding does generally is increase the severity of accidents and alarmingly fast (Thanks, Newton!).
Energy levels follow square law and the human body has a rather low ceiling for the amount of energy it can absorb. It makes perfect sense that you're going to see large "averages" especially when the people going most excessively over the limit are the youngest and most inexperienced.
Now consider that young people also want to live in dense urban environments where there are a lot of other cars travelling at variable speeds, what you have is a recipe for high statistical impact accidents with energy levels following a square law with a low ceiling for death.
Lets look at a rather typical case:
Young family, two kids, ages (28,28,2,3) they are travelling 10 over rushing to daycare and jobs, they run into an 85 year old grandpa driving 20 under. Everyone dies, so you have 10 over associated with (75-28+75-28+75-2+75-2) or 240 years of life expectancy, now on the other hand you have 20 under associated with -10 years of life expectancy. Lets not even get into who caused the accident according to anyone but a prosecutor.
Do this study on people over 75 and you'll find that old people should drastically increase the speed of their driving. Do this study on 0-10 year olds and you'll find that we shouldn't even be driving at all. The only thing this study says is that young people speed and when they die they have a disproportionate affect on average life span. The rest of it is just asinine statistical interpretations on data that have nothing to with speeding, and everything to do with the fact that the faster you are travelling the more likely you are to die when you crash. If they wanted to make this scientifically valid they should publish a chart showing at what age you should be speeding by how much, because once you're past 2/3rd life expectancy it's advantageous to speed according to this study, but this isn't about science, it's about speed = bad, so they can tax (err.. fine) you for doing it.
It's absolutely idiotic to add those numbers given the age and driving preferences and think that speeding is counter productive. This study is as stupid as a study that says that if Bill Gates moves onto your block that everyone on your block becomes a billionaire. Yes, it works on "average" but everyone knows that you still have to go to work (you may even have to speed to get there on time) in the morning if bill gates moves to your block.
I'd much rather get in an accident going 10 over a 50 zone than 5 under in a 100 zone (especially if it's on coming traffic).
Also, in Montana after a Judge invalidated their speeding laws as unconstitutional the number of accidents dropped.
http://www.hwysafety.com/hwy_montana.htm http://www.hwysafety.com/hwy_montana.htm
I'll take real world data over a computer model any day of the week.
- baddox 16y agoThe pro-speed limit argument falls apart as soon as someone says "but accidents are more deadly at 90mph" or "your reaction time is less adequate at 90mph." The problem is that while the statement is true, it's also true any lower limit, anything >0.
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- jdavid 16y agoone could also argue that the less time you spend thinking about cops, speeding tickets, and slamming on the breaks; the more time you can actually spend driving well.
- alphaoverlord 16y ago> The pro-speed limit argument falls apart as soon as someone says "but accidents are more deadly at 90mph" or "your reaction time is less adequate at 90mph." The problem is that while the statement is true, it's also true any lower limit, anything >0. 1. There is more than one argument for speed limits. 2. Just because it is true at any lower limit does not invalidate the statement. This just means that there needs be a balance between efficiency (higher speeds) and risk of collision (lower speeds). This is regulated, abet subjectively, through speed limits. 3. I doubt that it is true at 'any' lower limit. My guess would be that it is bounded. An accident when you are driving at 5mph is not much less deadly than an accident at 10mph. The chances that you are not the cause of the accident is much higher at lower limits.
- ced 16y agoEnergy levels follow square law and the human body has a rather low ceiling for the amount of energy it can absorb. Where does that reasoning come from? IIRC, only fully elastic collisions (no heat dissipation) preserve kinetic energy. Linear momentum is always preserved though. As the name implies, it's not quadratic.
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