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Also, incidentally, there's a small group of mainstream RPG fans who get absolutely furious about anything resembling GNS or story games, for no reason I've eve
by PhasmaFelis 8y ago
Also, incidentally, there's a small group of mainstream RPG fans who get absolutely furious about anything resembling GNS or story games, for no reason I've ever been able to determine.
(But then Ron Edwards infamously said that traditional/D&D-style RPGs literally cause brain damage, so I suppose there's a lot of defensiveness to go around...)
- 131012 8y agoThese systems are a bit alien sometimes and really easy to abuse. So if you have munchkin players around the table who like min/maxing, they are to be avoided (or avoid the min/maxing player). In Burning Wheel for exemple, there is no game balance. The knight will absolutely destroy the village-grown militia man, even if they have the same amount of "xp". Also, the complete swordplay game system takes hours to learn just to emulate a few seconds of fencing. They chose realism over smooth gameplay.
- danielvf 8y agoYeah, Burning Wheel is crazy. Later games dropped that over the top simulation side and went all out for story.
- digi_owl 8y agoAnd his disciples going around yakking about throwing away crutches by playing their oh so fancy narrativist games. More like throwing the baby, the role, out with the bathwater. All because Ron got pissed because the marketing blurb on the back of a White Wolf game didn't quite deliver what he expected.
- skgoa 8y agoI don't know what their reasons are, but I do have a certain aversion to games that try to force social play in a certain way. E.g. when a board game forces you to be the traitor. I can totally see why people might want the rules of the game be limited to enabling and balancing the players' interactions with the world and letting player improv the actual narrative.