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>The problem is that the groups that are spreading this propaganda are also spreading the private contact information of the families, a practice known as doxxi

>The problem is that the groups that are spreading this propaganda are also spreading the private contact information of the families, a practice known as doxxing. Isn't the doxxing the problem then? It seems like the focus is in the wrong place. Don't we already have laws on the books to stop harrassement? Don't we have laws to stop from inciting violence? If we need to strenghen them then that's an opportunity for discussion. Do we need to talk about our free speech laws? I frankly think it's time to have that discussion, and not quite because of the reason you may think. Neither of those discussions is this discussion though, and that's my issue here. Facebook is (as another more eloquent commenter said) a megaphone. Why are we blaming the megaphone?

underdunder 8y ago
I totally agree. The fatanasy of a digital Jesus that would save us all and bring heaven to the internet should stop.
omegaworks 8y ago
>Isn't the doxxing the problem then? It seems like the focus is in the wrong place. Facebook is taking the stance that spaces (pages) that promote and spread this information must be protected. They are slow to take action against people (and their bot networks) that incite harassment. >Don't we already have laws on the books to stop harrassement? Don't we have laws to stop from inciting violence? Local police departments are not equipped to deal with internet harassment, even credible threats of violence. There are cross-jurisdictional restrictions on their ability to act.[1] >Why are we blaming the megaphone? Facebook is the entity that directly profits from the presence of these people on their platform. They optimize for engagement. If harassers keep your eyes on Facebook, then Facebook optimizes your feed to see more harassment. Hate-clicks are just as revenue generating for them as any other kind of click. 1. https://twitter.com/NoraReed/status/1019702132579037184 https://twitter.com/NoraReed/status/1019702132579037184

underdunder 8y ago

I totally agree. The fatanasy of a digital Jesus that would save us all and bring heaven to the internet should stop.

omegaworks 8y ago

>Isn't the doxxing the problem then? It seems like the focus is in the wrong place. Facebook is taking the stance that spaces (pages) that promote and spread this information must be protected. They are slow to take action against people (and their bot networks) that incite harassment. >Don't we already have laws on the books to stop harrassement? Don't we have laws to stop from inciting violence? Local police departments are not equipped to deal with internet harassment, even credible threats of violence. There are cross-jurisdictional restrictions on their ability to act.[1] >Why are we blaming the megaphone? Facebook is the entity that directly profits from the presence of these people on their platform. They optimize for engagement. If harassers keep your eyes on Facebook, then Facebook optimizes your feed to see more harassment. Hate-clicks are just as revenue generating for them as any other kind of click. 1. https://twitter.com/NoraReed/status/1019702132579037184 https://twitter.com/NoraReed/status/1019702132579037184