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Then if you really want to get into the details you could begin working through the RFCs: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc-index.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/

Then if you really want to get into the details you could begin working through the RFCs: https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc-index.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc-index.html in contrast to this, a brief and lively history is the book Where Wizards Stay Up Late by Katie Hafner and Matthew Lyon.

voltagex_ 8y ago
https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1118.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1118.txt is one such historical record. Implementing something like DNS, however, requires jumping between multiple documents and understanding what's deprecated and extended by each.
- jmiserez 8y ago
  It’s super-annoying to read an RFC and not know about the newer updates or that it has been superseded altogether. And source code that mentions RFC 822 when it’s been superseded twice. Unfortunately the old RFCs are never updated with links to the newer ones. However, I just saw that rfc-editor.org actually lists these links between them, e.g. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2822 https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2822 has links to both 822 and to 5322.
  - unmole 8y ago
    All RFC's have links to Obsoleted by and Updated by sections in HTML format where applicable. For example: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
    - jmiserez 8y ago
      Ah, great! Too bad Google doesn’t seem to know about it. Searching for “rfc 2822” doesn’t find it and only shows me https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2822.txt https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2822.txt
artie_effim 8y ago
Came here to say this. Learning BNF ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form ) and knowing how to go to the roots have helped me more than once in my career (started as tester, moved to security engineer, then net engineer, then CISSP, then ISSO, then HIPPA SPO -- now senior sec engineer at top10 UNI) Here is a good site to see what obsoletes and is superseded by what. https://www.potaroo.net/ietf/html/rfcindex.html https://www.potaroo.net/ietf/html/rfcindex.html
- nurettin 8y ago
  I have no idea what those acronyms mean, (UNI is University?) But that is an excellent resource for internet RFCs, thanks.

voltagex_ 8y ago

https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1118.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1118.txt is one such historical record. Implementing something like DNS, however, requires jumping between multiple documents and understanding what's deprecated and extended by each.

jmiserez 8y ago
It’s super-annoying to read an RFC and not know about the newer updates or that it has been superseded altogether. And source code that mentions RFC 822 when it’s been superseded twice. Unfortunately the old RFCs are never updated with links to the newer ones. However, I just saw that rfc-editor.org actually lists these links between them, e.g. https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2822 https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2822 has links to both 822 and to 5322.
- unmole 8y ago
  All RFC's have links to Obsoleted by and Updated by sections in HTML format where applicable. For example: https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc822
  - jmiserez 8y ago
    Ah, great! Too bad Google doesn’t seem to know about it. Searching for “rfc 2822” doesn’t find it and only shows me https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2822.txt https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2822.txt

artie_effim 8y ago

Came here to say this. Learning BNF ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Backus%E2%80%93Naur_form ) and knowing how to go to the roots have helped me more than once in my career (started as tester, moved to security engineer, then net engineer, then CISSP, then ISSO, then HIPPA SPO -- now senior sec engineer at top10 UNI) Here is a good site to see what obsoletes and is superseded by what. https://www.potaroo.net/ietf/html/rfcindex.html https://www.potaroo.net/ietf/html/rfcindex.html

nurettin 8y ago
I have no idea what those acronyms mean, (UNI is University?) But that is an excellent resource for internet RFCs, thanks.