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San Francisco looks to ban free lunch at tech companies

17 points by srameshc 8y ago

njn 8y ago
This would be an excellent move.
- modells 8y ago
  I assume you were being facetious. ?
  - njn 8y ago
    don't make an ass out of u and me :P
- maerF0x0 8y ago
  For what reasons?
  - njn 8y ago
    - Prevent tech companies from asserting bullshit - If you're lucky, they move out - Other businesses can thrive - Even though these rules don't apply to already established companies like twitter and google, can somebody kick them out of SF too? kthx.
    - maerF0x0 8y ago
      Ok, we've established your goal. But maybe you could speak a bit about why you have that goal? Can you see any way that these companies may also be benefiting your life?
modells 8y ago
Collective punishment because non-tech people are envious? That’s the least cool thing I’ve heard in a while. Mandating purchases from local restaurants would be totalitarianism. I might lean democratic Marxist, but this proposal goes way too far. Perhaps it’s just a CBS clickbait and/or proposal to stir a debate? If restaurants offered better food and sold to meal plan services or directly to companies, what’s the issue?
oceanghost 8y ago
Is the concept of personal freedom dead in SF?
Eridrus 8y ago
On one hand I see where this is coming from: people like restaurants and having a variety of them, usually a good chunk of their business is from office workers at lunch, and by occupying those offices, tech companies are making the economic situation for those around them worse again, and harming the vibrancy of the areas in which they build offices. On the other hand, the in-house catering is often better, healthier, more convenient and more efficient than what you would get at a restaurant. But I don't really think this is an honest attempt at solving a real problem though, I think this is an attempt to have a vote on a wedge issue that London Breed has to either veto or sign, making her a weaker candidate in the next election.
- goliatone 8y ago
  This is the first comment related to this issue that has made me stop for a second and consider the whole situation in a different dimension. Like a chess move...
klondike_ 8y ago
This is inconvenient for tech workers and will probably just cause more people to bring their own lunch. If these restaurants want tech customers, why don't they offer catering to cafeterias? It's pointless to pass laws to protect your bad business model
Rjevski 8y ago
> that don't go out to lunch and don't go out in support of restaurants every day These idiots need a reality check. No business is entitled to customers. Customers choose to go there out of their own free will if the business provides service they need. If it doesn’t, then it’s time to change products or move onto another business model or market.
jrnichols 8y ago
Of all of the absolutely ridiculous laws that I've seen show up in San Francisco over the years, this is one of the stupidest things I've seen.
jiveturkey 8y ago
only 51 existing cafeterias? wow. stupid proposal, and will never pass.
Bucephalus355 8y ago
Disagree with many things San Francisco does but this has some good things about it. FYI Marc Benioff at SalesForce has always done this for the same reason that the city is citing. Of course, the traffic would probably get much worse.
jayofdoom 8y ago
The thing that's truly bananas about this -- when I worked in SF and lunch was paid for, we always catered in from local businesses! This sort of benefit doesn't isolate you from the community, it invests in the community. More than once I went to a restaurant that had catered a meal at my job -- places I wouldn't have known existed had I not gotten a free lunch.
tiredwired 8y ago
Next up - you cannot use building restrooms, you have to go out on the sidewalk like everyone else.
anon-patch-1 8y ago
https://www.change.org/p/san-francisco-government-ban-kitchens-from-the-houses-of-san-francisco-supervisors https://www.change.org/p/san-francisco-government-ban-kitche...

17 points by srameshc 8y ago

njn 8y ago

This would be an excellent move.

modells 8y ago
I assume you were being facetious. ?
- njn 8y ago
  don't make an ass out of u and me :P
maerF0x0 8y ago
For what reasons?
- njn 8y ago
  - Prevent tech companies from asserting bullshit - If you're lucky, they move out - Other businesses can thrive - Even though these rules don't apply to already established companies like twitter and google, can somebody kick them out of SF too? kthx.
  - maerF0x0 8y ago
    Ok, we've established your goal. But maybe you could speak a bit about why you have that goal? Can you see any way that these companies may also be benefiting your life?

modells 8y ago

Collective punishment because non-tech people are envious? That’s the least cool thing I’ve heard in a while. Mandating purchases from local restaurants would be totalitarianism. I might lean democratic Marxist, but this proposal goes way too far. Perhaps it’s just a CBS clickbait and/or proposal to stir a debate? If restaurants offered better food and sold to meal plan services or directly to companies, what’s the issue?

oceanghost 8y ago

Is the concept of personal freedom dead in SF?

Eridrus 8y ago

On one hand I see where this is coming from: people like restaurants and having a variety of them, usually a good chunk of their business is from office workers at lunch, and by occupying those offices, tech companies are making the economic situation for those around them worse again, and harming the vibrancy of the areas in which they build offices. On the other hand, the in-house catering is often better, healthier, more convenient and more efficient than what you would get at a restaurant. But I don't really think this is an honest attempt at solving a real problem though, I think this is an attempt to have a vote on a wedge issue that London Breed has to either veto or sign, making her a weaker candidate in the next election.

goliatone 8y ago
This is the first comment related to this issue that has made me stop for a second and consider the whole situation in a different dimension. Like a chess move...

klondike_ 8y ago

This is inconvenient for tech workers and will probably just cause more people to bring their own lunch. If these restaurants want tech customers, why don't they offer catering to cafeterias? It's pointless to pass laws to protect your bad business model

Rjevski 8y ago

> that don't go out to lunch and don't go out in support of restaurants every day These idiots need a reality check. No business is entitled to customers. Customers choose to go there out of their own free will if the business provides service they need. If it doesn’t, then it’s time to change products or move onto another business model or market.

jrnichols 8y ago

Of all of the absolutely ridiculous laws that I've seen show up in San Francisco over the years, this is one of the stupidest things I've seen.

jiveturkey 8y ago

only 51 existing cafeterias? wow. stupid proposal, and will never pass.

Bucephalus355 8y ago

Disagree with many things San Francisco does but this has some good things about it. FYI Marc Benioff at SalesForce has always done this for the same reason that the city is citing. Of course, the traffic would probably get much worse.

jayofdoom 8y ago

The thing that's truly bananas about this -- when I worked in SF and lunch was paid for, we always catered in from local businesses! This sort of benefit doesn't isolate you from the community, it invests in the community. More than once I went to a restaurant that had catered a meal at my job -- places I wouldn't have known existed had I not gotten a free lunch.

tiredwired 8y ago

Next up - you cannot use building restrooms, you have to go out on the sidewalk like everyone else.

anon-patch-1 8y ago

https://www.change.org/p/san-francisco-government-ban-kitchens-from-the-houses-of-san-francisco-supervisors https://www.change.org/p/san-francisco-government-ban-kitche...