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by objectively underpaid you mean that you can easily get a better paid job but are/were staying because you liked the boss so much? i think usually restaurant

by objectively underpaid you mean that you can easily get a better paid job but are/were staying because you liked the boss so much? i think usually restaurant/bar/cafe personel paid quite a bit better than canteen personel because restaurant workers have to be representative, which excludes about two thirds of the population. canteen workers can be just about anyone. which means they will hire whoever is cheapest. i want to tell you to get out of this line of work. i know it is not my place. i can imagine you even like the work. still, it is not right that somebody with mathematical inclinations should suffer the fate of a canteen worker. maybe accept a junior tech position at a cheap outsourcer like the place i work for (well we are transitioning away from that model but there are lots of others who will accept just about anyone). pay likely wont be better but you will feel better about where your life is going and you might get to work in a low cost of living place. even more, you would get very valuable experience.

throeuhway 8y ago
'Objectively' due to employers claiming they are paying the 'on the tin' industry standard but neglecting a large portion of the paystub wages I appreciate your encouragement, though it feels a bit backhanded, and I would encourage you to say the same to all the people who perform services for you I can say this: it's a hard sell to say paying me for making coffee grants you rights to my research ; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17604251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17604251 Regardless of the element of me in this issue I still think it is an important note for the sake of all people, especially the person who landed the job I interviewed for, and I am in a position to broach the discrepancy
- timwaagh 8y ago
  employers will do anything to look good. words are cheap when they are not required to be truthful. in retrospect i consider it a positive that my current employer told me when i interviewed that they dont pay market rates. most people who perform services for me are already studying to get out eventually. no need for me to give such unsollicited advice. as for the research thing i would say you are right, but that is really a local law matter.

throeuhway 8y ago

'Objectively' due to employers claiming they are paying the 'on the tin' industry standard but neglecting a large portion of the paystub wages I appreciate your encouragement, though it feels a bit backhanded, and I would encourage you to say the same to all the people who perform services for you I can say this: it's a hard sell to say paying me for making coffee grants you rights to my research ; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17604251 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17604251 Regardless of the element of me in this issue I still think it is an important note for the sake of all people, especially the person who landed the job I interviewed for, and I am in a position to broach the discrepancy

timwaagh 8y ago
employers will do anything to look good. words are cheap when they are not required to be truthful. in retrospect i consider it a positive that my current employer told me when i interviewed that they dont pay market rates. most people who perform services for me are already studying to get out eventually. no need for me to give such unsollicited advice. as for the research thing i would say you are right, but that is really a local law matter.