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I would absolutely pay google $25 to store my music in the cloud. I have 150GB of the stuff and keeping it on my laptop has become impossible.

lukev 16y ago
You can do this already. Write a music player client that can stuff your music into an encrypted blob and push it out on Amazon S3 or something. $22.50/month for storage. The problem is that that monthly price is a bit high for most people.
- il 16y ago
  I think "Write a music player client that can stuff your music into an encrypted blob" is a bigger hurdle for most people than paying $25/month. Besides, doesn't Grooveshark already do this for free?
  - lukev 16y ago
    Well, as a startup, I mean. There shouldn't be any legal hurdles, anyway - it's really just a backup system specialized for music. And I'll be honest, I have no clue what Grooveshark's business model is. I like it, but I don't see how the RIAA doesn't come down on them like a ton of bricks, and I really doubt the ads they show can cover what they ought to be paying in royalties.
    - pg 16y ago
      There shouldn't be any legal hurdles, anyway - it's really just a backup system specialized for music. I would not assume that.
    - CoryMathews 16y ago
      Grooveshark has deals with a few of the major record labels. They get paid everytime grooveshark plays a song. They have been sued a couple times in the past and now have deals with most of these labels. Grooveshark makes money through their VIP, advertising, and promotions put on by the artists themselves. Technically they are not sharing music since you cannot download it, which is why I would guess they get around a lot of things that way.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    Sounds like a good idea for an OS project, if it doesn't exist yet. But how cheap is storage in the cloud? 25$/months is definitely too much, if that's what S3 costs for 100GB?
    - lukev 16y ago
      S3 and comparable services typically cost around $.15/GB/MO. You can sometimes go down to $.10 with a reduced redundancy service, or for very high volumes (approaching petabytes). It's a bit high for music backup.
- shawndumas 16y ago
  The Article said $25 a year
- catch23 16y ago
  It would probably make sense to do this as a service though. I'm guessing people probably listen to similar tunes, so it would be significantly cheaper if you could pool 10 people's music and only store 1 copy of every song.
- gnaritas 16y ago
  You can get this from dropbox, now, for free.
  - Tichy 16y ago
    10GB is not enough for an average music collection. Also I think dropbox does not add to your available space on your hard disk. It just mirrors parts of it.
    - gnaritas 16y ago
      Sure it is, most people don't listen to that much music and there's a ton of 8gig iPods out there and still selling strong. 10gigs might not be enough for you, but it's certainly enough for most anyone's active listening list.
pavel_lishin 16y ago
I would absolutely not. What if they decide that the music branch of their business is expendable? "We're shutting down our servers in a month, gl;dd". Remember Microsoft.
- dandelany 16y ago
  > Remember Microsoft And Lala, and Walmart.
- dagw 16y ago
  If it was my music to begin with I hopefully have it backed up somewhere, so no harm done. I'll just go back to doing whatever I did before.
  - pavel_lishin 16y ago
    As would I, but doesn't that eliminate a lot of the convenience of leaving it up to Google, the cloud, etc? At that point, why not just set your music up on a RAID, and stream it from home?
    - dagw 16y ago
      Pain to set up. Not all ISPs let you run a server. Having to have a server up and running 24/7. Google probably has better infrastructure and more reliable network connections than I do. Google has someone on call 24/7 to fix problems. Basically all the standard arguments as to why you let anybody host anything rather than doing it yourself.
bincat 16y ago
I also would not pay anybody to store the music. It's just cheaper to buy two external hard drives and keep them in sync. As time goes by I have noticed that most of what I have downloaded is becoming extra baggage to log a round. I keep going back to the same set of things to listen as nothing really good seems to coming out in the genre I like (ambient, electronica). In short, I perceive digital music as the money pit not that's not worth it.

lukev 16y ago

You can do this already. Write a music player client that can stuff your music into an encrypted blob and push it out on Amazon S3 or something. $22.50/month for storage. The problem is that that monthly price is a bit high for most people.

il 16y ago
I think "Write a music player client that can stuff your music into an encrypted blob" is a bigger hurdle for most people than paying $25/month. Besides, doesn't Grooveshark already do this for free?
- lukev 16y ago
  Well, as a startup, I mean. There shouldn't be any legal hurdles, anyway - it's really just a backup system specialized for music. And I'll be honest, I have no clue what Grooveshark's business model is. I like it, but I don't see how the RIAA doesn't come down on them like a ton of bricks, and I really doubt the ads they show can cover what they ought to be paying in royalties.
  - pg 16y ago
    There shouldn't be any legal hurdles, anyway - it's really just a backup system specialized for music. I would not assume that.
  - CoryMathews 16y ago
    Grooveshark has deals with a few of the major record labels. They get paid everytime grooveshark plays a song. They have been sued a couple times in the past and now have deals with most of these labels. Grooveshark makes money through their VIP, advertising, and promotions put on by the artists themselves. Technically they are not sharing music since you cannot download it, which is why I would guess they get around a lot of things that way.
- Tichy 16y ago
  Sounds like a good idea for an OS project, if it doesn't exist yet. But how cheap is storage in the cloud? 25$/months is definitely too much, if that's what S3 costs for 100GB?
  - lukev 16y ago
    S3 and comparable services typically cost around $.15/GB/MO. You can sometimes go down to $.10 with a reduced redundancy service, or for very high volumes (approaching petabytes). It's a bit high for music backup.
shawndumas 16y ago
The Article said $25 a year
catch23 16y ago
It would probably make sense to do this as a service though. I'm guessing people probably listen to similar tunes, so it would be significantly cheaper if you could pool 10 people's music and only store 1 copy of every song.
gnaritas 16y ago
You can get this from dropbox, now, for free.
- Tichy 16y ago
  10GB is not enough for an average music collection. Also I think dropbox does not add to your available space on your hard disk. It just mirrors parts of it.
  - gnaritas 16y ago
    Sure it is, most people don't listen to that much music and there's a ton of 8gig iPods out there and still selling strong. 10gigs might not be enough for you, but it's certainly enough for most anyone's active listening list.

pavel_lishin 16y ago

I would absolutely not. What if they decide that the music branch of their business is expendable? "We're shutting down our servers in a month, gl;dd". Remember Microsoft.

dandelany 16y ago
> Remember Microsoft And Lala, and Walmart.
dagw 16y ago
If it was my music to begin with I hopefully have it backed up somewhere, so no harm done. I'll just go back to doing whatever I did before.
- pavel_lishin 16y ago
  As would I, but doesn't that eliminate a lot of the convenience of leaving it up to Google, the cloud, etc? At that point, why not just set your music up on a RAID, and stream it from home?
  - dagw 16y ago
    Pain to set up. Not all ISPs let you run a server. Having to have a server up and running 24/7. Google probably has better infrastructure and more reliable network connections than I do. Google has someone on call 24/7 to fix problems. Basically all the standard arguments as to why you let anybody host anything rather than doing it yourself.

bincat 16y ago

I also would not pay anybody to store the music. It's just cheaper to buy two external hard drives and keep them in sync. As time goes by I have noticed that most of what I have downloaded is becoming extra baggage to log a round. I keep going back to the same set of things to listen as nothing really good seems to coming out in the genre I like (ambient, electronica). In short, I perceive digital music as the money pit not that's not worth it.