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Fat + Carbs makes you fat. Cut out one and you lose weight. I'm on a plant based diet which is high carb (no highly-refined carbs) and I'm very fit. If your bo

Fat + Carbs makes you fat. Cut out one and you lose weight. I'm on a plant based diet which is high carb (no highly-refined carbs) and I'm very fit. If your body's glycogen stores are full from carbs then YES fat you consume goes straight to fat. EDIT: and WFPB (whole food plant based) also reverses type 2 diabetes.

Numberwang 8y ago
Thank you for being a voice of reason in all this. When this ketosis madness ends and we go back to eating plant based like our ancestors did the world will be a better place with healthier humans and no factory farms.
- djsumdog 8y ago
  I think you can do either, and I should have added that to my post. Veganism isn't a health diet straight out; it's a political diet. But you can be very health (lots of plant, plant carbs and very little fat) or very unhealthy (nothing but Oreo cookies). I agree with the poster that a high carb/low fat diet can also be pretty healthy, but you pretty much do have to do one or the other. Both approaches are difficult, because the food supply/industry isn't really setup for it. There are a ton of unhealthy vegan meals in vegan restaurants as well, where they load up on refined sugar and not as many plants. They keto stuff isn't madness though. It's just a different approach and it works for some people.
dhruvkar 8y ago
I've been on keto for a > 1 year now, but feeling like I want to cut out meat products. Any resources that you can point to, to research the physiological effects behind WFPB, and for getting started?
- kristallizer1 8y ago
  Not OP, but https://old.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience#wiki_health_on_a_vegan_diet https://old.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience#wiki_health... is a good starting point.
- devmunchies 8y ago
  Rich roll podcast has a lot about WFPB diet. He’s a lawyer turned athlete so his discussions are pretty good. I enjoy this one about the benefits of ketosis in a plant based diet with Dr Kahn: http://www.richroll.com/podcast/joel-kahn-349/ http://www.richroll.com/podcast/joel-kahn-349/

Numberwang 8y ago

Thank you for being a voice of reason in all this. When this ketosis madness ends and we go back to eating plant based like our ancestors did the world will be a better place with healthier humans and no factory farms.

djsumdog 8y ago
I think you can do either, and I should have added that to my post. Veganism isn't a health diet straight out; it's a political diet. But you can be very health (lots of plant, plant carbs and very little fat) or very unhealthy (nothing but Oreo cookies). I agree with the poster that a high carb/low fat diet can also be pretty healthy, but you pretty much do have to do one or the other. Both approaches are difficult, because the food supply/industry isn't really setup for it. There are a ton of unhealthy vegan meals in vegan restaurants as well, where they load up on refined sugar and not as many plants. They keto stuff isn't madness though. It's just a different approach and it works for some people.

dhruvkar 8y ago

I've been on keto for a > 1 year now, but feeling like I want to cut out meat products. Any resources that you can point to, to research the physiological effects behind WFPB, and for getting started?

kristallizer1 8y ago
Not OP, but https://old.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience#wiki_health_on_a_vegan_diet https://old.reddit.com/r/vegan/wiki/veganscience#wiki_health... is a good starting point.
devmunchies 8y ago
Rich roll podcast has a lot about WFPB diet. He’s a lawyer turned athlete so his discussions are pretty good. I enjoy this one about the benefits of ketosis in a plant based diet with Dr Kahn: http://www.richroll.com/podcast/joel-kahn-349/ http://www.richroll.com/podcast/joel-kahn-349/