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I find it very surprising that the first meal should be after getting up. It seems unlikely to me that our hunter and gatherer foragers had immediate access to

I find it very surprising that the first meal should be after getting up. It seems unlikely to me that our hunter and gatherer foragers had immediate access to food after getting up. Also the article mentions multiple times that food consumption during times of little or no daylight is messing with our internal clocks, but I wonder if that is actually true, because in Winter we only have daylight from about 8am to 4pm, often less. I eat when my body tells me it is hungry, which literally can happen at any time of the day. Sometimes I am physically active for most of the day (sports) and then I am normally pretty hungry at even 9 or 10pm and I think it would be pretty unhealthy not to listen to my own body. This article is pretty much bollocks, the only rule for a healthy lifestyle is: Listen to your body. Don't follow any dogmatic approach!

nissarup 8y ago
"...the only rule for a healthy lifestyle is: Listen to your body" and "Don't follow any dogmatic approach!" really don't belong together. Also if it was as easy as "Listen to your body" do you think we would be having all these obesity problems now?
- nunodonato 8y ago
  > Also if it was as easy as "Listen to your body" do you think we would be having all these obesity problems now? Yes! this is a common misconception. "listen to your body" is not the same as "eat whatever you feel like eating". Your tongue/appetite/addictions can tell you many harmful things. Listening to your body requires a lot of training and sensitivity, otherwise my body keeps telling me to eat cakes ;)
  - close04 8y ago
    You're right. Your body getting rounder and heavier each year is its way of screaming for help :). Listening to it doesn't just mean "tastes good, means my body likes it". It means changing your habits based on all signals your body sends.
  - nissarup 8y ago
    But "listen to your body" is exactly "eat whatever you feel like eating"! Eating sugar releases dopamine. Is that not my body telling me it's good?
    - asdffdsa321 8y ago
      No, that's tasting good in the moment then feeling horrible and crashing afterwards. I understand his comments not very scientifically rigorous, but the message is pretty clear. Eat healthy, work out, feel good. It's pretty obvious when I'm doing something unhealthy, though maybe if you've had horrible diet/exercise your entire life you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines
      - nissarup 8y ago
        But "you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines" is something completely different from "listen to your body". The two statements are similar in one way, though: Completely useless as advice that will get people healthier. "listen to your body" will get people to eat what they wan't. "you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines" will get people to read all sorts of bad advice. Like, for example: "listen to your body".
        kaybe 8y ago
        People might have to learn how to listen. Many modern diets don't really give kids an opportunity to experience different things. How can you know what your body wants if you never had the chance to try? It is a question of being exposed to a wide array of options and and then of being able to feel what is needed. Compared to a violent craving for sugar and fast food the signal is much more muted.
        nissarup 8y ago
        So it's not just "listen to your body" it's more like "learn to listen to the specific right signals that your body is whispering very, very softly while yelling for more sugar". Is that right? I'm sorry. This is horrible advice. In fact I would not call it advice at all. Basically you are just saying "do the right thing" without specifying what "the right thing" actually is.
zilian 8y ago
You sound a bit dogmatic and unscientific though.
fifnir 8y ago
Listening to your body leads some of us to eating an entire family size pizza..
Rainymood 8y ago
> Listen to your body. Don't follow any dogmatic approach! When my body tells me to inject more drugs into my veins because it feels good I should really listen to my body! Your comment is pretty much bollocks to be honest. My example is reductio ad absurdum of course but the point still stands. If we were to listen to our body 24/7 we'd all be mindless instagram/facebook/dopamine zombies.
- arketyp 8y ago
  The slogan should probably be "Learn about your body." Also, there may be some truth to the second part which resonates with what Arnold says: "Shock your body!"
- tspiteri 8y ago
  I never interpreted "listen to your body" as "give in to all your body's whims", it's more like: if in your experience you feel better after doing X, then X is probably good for you.
- dustinmoris 8y ago
  Yes, precisely, if your body tells you to eat cake all day and there are no other consequences then why not?! However if you get fat and unhealthy then guess what - your body tells you to stop eating cake like a maniac. So my argument still stands - listen to your body.
grondilu 8y ago
> I find it very surprising that the first meal should be after getting up. It seems unlikely to me that our hunter and gatherer foragers had immediate access to food after getting up. Well, there can be leftovers from the previous day hunt or something.

nissarup 8y ago

"...the only rule for a healthy lifestyle is: Listen to your body" and "Don't follow any dogmatic approach!" really don't belong together. Also if it was as easy as "Listen to your body" do you think we would be having all these obesity problems now?

nunodonato 8y ago
> Also if it was as easy as "Listen to your body" do you think we would be having all these obesity problems now? Yes! this is a common misconception. "listen to your body" is not the same as "eat whatever you feel like eating". Your tongue/appetite/addictions can tell you many harmful things. Listening to your body requires a lot of training and sensitivity, otherwise my body keeps telling me to eat cakes ;)
- close04 8y ago
  You're right. Your body getting rounder and heavier each year is its way of screaming for help :). Listening to it doesn't just mean "tastes good, means my body likes it". It means changing your habits based on all signals your body sends.
- nissarup 8y ago
  But "listen to your body" is exactly "eat whatever you feel like eating"! Eating sugar releases dopamine. Is that not my body telling me it's good?
  - asdffdsa321 8y ago
    No, that's tasting good in the moment then feeling horrible and crashing afterwards. I understand his comments not very scientifically rigorous, but the message is pretty clear. Eat healthy, work out, feel good. It's pretty obvious when I'm doing something unhealthy, though maybe if you've had horrible diet/exercise your entire life you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines
    - nissarup 8y ago
      But "you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines" is something completely different from "listen to your body". The two statements are similar in one way, though: Completely useless as advice that will get people healthier. "listen to your body" will get people to eat what they wan't. "you need to read up on healthy foods/workout routines" will get people to read all sorts of bad advice. Like, for example: "listen to your body".
      - kaybe 8y ago
        People might have to learn how to listen. Many modern diets don't really give kids an opportunity to experience different things. How can you know what your body wants if you never had the chance to try? It is a question of being exposed to a wide array of options and and then of being able to feel what is needed. Compared to a violent craving for sugar and fast food the signal is much more muted.
        nissarup 8y ago
        So it's not just "listen to your body" it's more like "learn to listen to the specific right signals that your body is whispering very, very softly while yelling for more sugar". Is that right? I'm sorry. This is horrible advice. In fact I would not call it advice at all. Basically you are just saying "do the right thing" without specifying what "the right thing" actually is.

zilian 8y ago

You sound a bit dogmatic and unscientific though.

fifnir 8y ago

Listening to your body leads some of us to eating an entire family size pizza..

Rainymood 8y ago

> Listen to your body. Don't follow any dogmatic approach! When my body tells me to inject more drugs into my veins because it feels good I should really listen to my body! Your comment is pretty much bollocks to be honest. My example is reductio ad absurdum of course but the point still stands. If we were to listen to our body 24/7 we'd all be mindless instagram/facebook/dopamine zombies.

arketyp 8y ago
The slogan should probably be "Learn about your body." Also, there may be some truth to the second part which resonates with what Arnold says: "Shock your body!"
tspiteri 8y ago
I never interpreted "listen to your body" as "give in to all your body's whims", it's more like: if in your experience you feel better after doing X, then X is probably good for you.
dustinmoris 8y ago
Yes, precisely, if your body tells you to eat cake all day and there are no other consequences then why not?! However if you get fat and unhealthy then guess what - your body tells you to stop eating cake like a maniac. So my argument still stands - listen to your body.

grondilu 8y ago

> I find it very surprising that the first meal should be after getting up. It seems unlikely to me that our hunter and gatherer foragers had immediate access to food after getting up. Well, there can be leftovers from the previous day hunt or something.