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> Facebook is under no legal obligation to extend white ethno-nationalists (as one relevant example) a platform or support their cause in any capacity, and shou

> Facebook is under no legal obligation to extend white ethno-nationalists (as one relevant example) a platform or support their cause in any capacity, and should do the right thing. Authoritarian liberals seem to forget the old saying that "What goes around, comes around." If the majority viewpoint shifts so that your opinions become unpopular, will you happily accept getting deplatformed yourself? Don't be so naive as to think it can't happen.

bmarquez 8y ago
> If the majority viewpoint shifts so that your opinions become unpopular, will you happily accept getting deplatformed yourself? Don't be so naive as to think it can't happen. I've seen this happen recently. The same people cheering on the deplatorming of Milo Yiannopoulos shouting "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" were just stunned when James Gunn was fired for his tweets.
- gowld 8y ago
  They were stunned because Disney execs got trolled into footgunning their business, not because Disney chose not to work with someone they disliked or because a boycott cost Disney some sales. Deplatforming Milo's intellectually bankrupt hateful message is not at all like "Deplatforming" a movie wholly unrelated to bad jokes told long ago by the movie's director.
  - bmarquez 8y ago
    I'd like to think that Disney execs are smarter than you give them credit for. The reason I compared Milo and Gunn is because both of them were deplatformed (by Simon and Schuster and Disney respectively) for making comments related to pedophilia. Milo says he was an abuse victim himself, Gunn says they're jokes. I don't know so I won't judge. But I'm pointing out that making shocking statements to gain popularity can be easily misused by your opponents (on all political sides), with career-ending consequences.
ashleyn 8y ago
If saying that minority people have the right to live and be free becomes an "unpopular opinion", we have considerably bigger problems and the need for revolution grows closer. Human rights matter. This is an objective, universal notion that must be always defended. Even, as the American South has proven, against a majority.
- bena 8y ago
  Don't confuse the overall issue with a specific message. You're just appealing to emotion. And exaggerating to attack a strawman.
  - prolepunk 8y ago
    [Citation please]
- gowld 8y ago
  Minority people having the right to live and be free was an unpopular opinion for most of history until very recently (in our lifetimes or our parents' lifetimes), which may prove an aberration.

bmarquez 8y ago

> If the majority viewpoint shifts so that your opinions become unpopular, will you happily accept getting deplatformed yourself? Don't be so naive as to think it can't happen. I've seen this happen recently. The same people cheering on the deplatorming of Milo Yiannopoulos shouting "freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences" were just stunned when James Gunn was fired for his tweets.

gowld 8y ago
They were stunned because Disney execs got trolled into footgunning their business, not because Disney chose not to work with someone they disliked or because a boycott cost Disney some sales. Deplatforming Milo's intellectually bankrupt hateful message is not at all like "Deplatforming" a movie wholly unrelated to bad jokes told long ago by the movie's director.
- bmarquez 8y ago
  I'd like to think that Disney execs are smarter than you give them credit for. The reason I compared Milo and Gunn is because both of them were deplatformed (by Simon and Schuster and Disney respectively) for making comments related to pedophilia. Milo says he was an abuse victim himself, Gunn says they're jokes. I don't know so I won't judge. But I'm pointing out that making shocking statements to gain popularity can be easily misused by your opponents (on all political sides), with career-ending consequences.

ashleyn 8y ago

If saying that minority people have the right to live and be free becomes an "unpopular opinion", we have considerably bigger problems and the need for revolution grows closer. Human rights matter. This is an objective, universal notion that must be always defended. Even, as the American South has proven, against a majority.

bena 8y ago
Don't confuse the overall issue with a specific message. You're just appealing to emotion. And exaggerating to attack a strawman.
- prolepunk 8y ago
  [Citation please]
gowld 8y ago
Minority people having the right to live and be free was an unpopular opinion for most of history until very recently (in our lifetimes or our parents' lifetimes), which may prove an aberration.