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Kosovo war. Iraq war. Libya war. Regime change in Ukraine. Syria war. Economic sanctions killing hundreds of thousands. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omnskeu

• ilovetux 8y ago
  I have checked each of these links and this does not feel like reliable information.
  • gepi79 8y ago
    Why not ? Why judge by feeling ? Anyway, thanks for the courtesy of checking each link.
    • ilovetux 8y ago
      Feeling is all I have in the end, sure it's backed up by what I have learned through the years but in the end the decisions I make are not only informed by my feelings but will also affect my feelings for the rest of my life. I have a healthy distrust of my government (The US) and I know there have been travesties committed by just about all of the players. I want to be informed and am willing to do the research. I was pretty young during some of the conflicts you mentioned so I'm also brushing up on some of the history. Which side do you align yourself with in the Kosovo war, it seems like it was a terrible ordeal for everyone involved?
      • gepi79 8y ago
        I live in West-Europe. War is always the worst case involving all (non-)imaginable harm and misery. I side with Syria/Russia in the war in Syria because the case is clear. Protected by the Syrian army: https://www.unusualtraveler.com/damascus/ https://www.unusualtraveler.com/damascus/ Destroyed by the opposition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil_War https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Syrian_Civil... and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6omfaKhZL0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6omfaKhZL0 and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0OeM0tFmFs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0OeM0tFmFs I side with no one in the past Kosovo war. The conflict was complicated and some conflict still remains in the region. Some years ago, when I found out about the extent of propaganda and lies and often ignorance or lack of normal morality of the politicians and the media, I was shocked and angry. After much time reading various sources and comment sections, one learns what to expect from the usual factions and actors and what is most likely true and what is story.
        • ilovetux 8y ago
          I appreciate your candor, it seems like you transitioned from indignation to resignation in the course of a few comments. I bet that happens often. I consider myself lucky to be a citizen of the US, but I recognize the propaganda and lies. It seems like the media in the US switched sometime in the late 80s to the early 90s from, perhaps slanted, but factual news coverage to sensationalist entertainment and we started down a very devisive path. Now my country is split into two main factions along with a few outliers. It's sad. I don't trust Russia at all, but that might be simply because I'm a child of the cold war. That being said I don't feel trust when I think of Russia. Syria is another story, I wish I could travel back in time before this crisis happened and talk with people, but they would probably be distrustful towards me rather than candid. I don't think that there is any real solution to the worlds problems in general, and even individual conflicts seem to have too many sides for any outsider to have any meaningful opinion. I wish I was more upbeat, but there are things happening in my country which are so concerning that I don't sleep more than a few hours per night.
          • gepi79 8y ago
• romwell 8y ago
  I won't comment on the rest, but as a Ukrainian living in the US (and thus keenly aware of both countries' politics), I object to seeing Ukraine in this list. I won't argue more about this point on Hacker News, of all places; however providing un-annotated links to videos (and making others figure out where in the videos any of your claims are supported) surely can't be seen as an acceptable way to reason around here.