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> developing countries using ocean as a waste dump I thought this was common knowledge by this point. The most polluted rivers in the world are located in Indi

by fein 8y ago

> developing countries using ocean as a waste dump I thought this was common knowledge by this point. The most polluted rivers in the world are located in India, China, South America, Africa, and Indonesia.

polskibus 8y ago
Developed countries don't help by shipping their waste to developing countries and removing the problem from their sight. China recently stopped accepting garbage from California and now the problem is back in the USA.
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- bilbo0s 8y ago
  I understand what you're saying, but now China gets clean rivers, and OUR rivers are a mess and begin pumping garbage and pollution into the ocean. (I guess, since we already pump garbage and pollution into the ocean it might be more accurate to say that we begin to pump more garbage and pollution into the ocean.) Point is, mankind still has the issue. China is not solving any problems by making us keep our own garbage. They're not helping mankind at all. And neither are we with our penchant for plastic products. I guess I'm just pointing out that the problem has not been fixed, it's been transferred.
- fein 8y ago
  The waste generated by countries that have over 1 billion inhabitants each will dwarf the amount of garbage we could ship them even if all garbage storage in the US was outsourced to them. It's a simple numbers game. 300 million will never produce as much waste as 1 billion.
  - sumedh 8y ago
    > 300 million will never produce as much waste as 1 billion. I dont have the numbers but Americans do produce more trash compared to majority of those billion. Its hard to compete with Americans when you live on $2 per day.
    - fein 8y ago
      Note that I wrote shipped, not produced. That being said: Sure, but that doesn't bode well for the future when that population of 1 billion starts elevating more of its people to the middle class. Yes, poverty means less waste, but the global goal seems to be getting people out of poverty, which increases net pollution.
- nitwit005 8y ago
  > China recently stopped accepting garbage You mean, they stopped buying recyclables? That's fairly different than just accepting raw waste: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-b...

by fein 8y ago

polskibus 8y ago

Developed countries don't help by shipping their waste to developing countries and removing the problem from their sight. China recently stopped accepting garbage from California and now the problem is back in the USA.

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bilbo0s 8y ago
I understand what you're saying, but now China gets clean rivers, and OUR rivers are a mess and begin pumping garbage and pollution into the ocean. (I guess, since we already pump garbage and pollution into the ocean it might be more accurate to say that we begin to pump more garbage and pollution into the ocean.) Point is, mankind still has the issue. China is not solving any problems by making us keep our own garbage. They're not helping mankind at all. And neither are we with our penchant for plastic products. I guess I'm just pointing out that the problem has not been fixed, it's been transferred.
fein 8y ago
The waste generated by countries that have over 1 billion inhabitants each will dwarf the amount of garbage we could ship them even if all garbage storage in the US was outsourced to them. It's a simple numbers game. 300 million will never produce as much waste as 1 billion.
- sumedh 8y ago
  > 300 million will never produce as much waste as 1 billion. I dont have the numbers but Americans do produce more trash compared to majority of those billion. Its hard to compete with Americans when you live on $2 per day.
  - fein 8y ago
    Note that I wrote shipped, not produced. That being said: Sure, but that doesn't bode well for the future when that population of 1 billion starts elevating more of its people to the middle class. Yes, poverty means less waste, but the global goal seems to be getting people out of poverty, which increases net pollution.
nitwit005 8y ago
> China recently stopped accepting garbage You mean, they stopped buying recyclables? That's fairly different than just accepting raw waste: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-ban.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/world/china-recyclables-b...