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Pretty saddening to read- instead of spending their billions to fight climate change, the rich have the "fuck you get mine" viewpoint. Hell, some of 'em probabl

by JTbane 8y ago

Pretty saddening to read- instead of spending their billions to fight climate change, the rich have the "fuck you get mine" viewpoint. Hell, some of 'em probably made their fortunes on coal and oil. Then again this could just be human nature.

kanox 8y ago
> instead of spending their billions to fight climate change Does Tesla count or are we still calling Elon a scammer and fraud because he's not producing electric cars fast enough?
- zzzzzzzza 8y ago
  "not producing electric cars fast enough" Oh, you mean literally lying about how many cars he is producing, fabricating timelines when he knows they are 100% impossible, libel-ing people, lying about self driving and giving a dangerous name (autopilot) to his driver assist, going on insane witchunts, and taking all the credit for other peoples work (e.g. martin eberhard)? All while producing crap tons of scrap and rework in his factory that literally invalidates the thesis that the cars are somehow environmentally friendly? Cars that are great at accelerating and suck at stopping, and thus have a much higher fatality rate than other luxury vehicles (on par with sports cars)? Yep pretty sure we're still calling elon a scammer and a fraud.
- TYPE_FASTER 8y ago
  I think the two things we should be doing are 1. Working on getting off the planet and 2. Working to save the planet. Elon is working on both. I'm a believer.
ahelwer 8y ago
It's kinda fun to have backup plan upon backup plan. I've definitely gone down this rabbit hole with online account security; was considering buying a safe to store a backup yubikey & some paper passwords, but then I had to consider how I might store the safe combo if I forgot it, and so on - your contingency planning creates more surface area from which additional problems grow.
bryanlarsen 8y ago
I suspect that many of them are putting resources into both fighting it and escaping it. At least that's what I would do.
wolfgke 8y ago
> Pretty saddening to read- instead of spending their billions to fight climate change A pretty good way to fight climate change would be to mostly stop breeding, because fewer people means less energy consumption and thus less climate change.
- j88439h84 8y ago
  > fewer people means less energy consumption Is that how markets work?
- tuesdayrain 8y ago
  Unfortunately the people who should consider breeding less will never consider this. And anyone on HN who is conscientious enough to actually stop reproducing because of this post will probably cause a net loss for society by doing so.
  - cmiles74 8y ago
    AFAIK, there's no scientific basis for this argument, it strikes me as tone deaf and possibly racist or classist. While there is some basis on which to argue that genes may influence intelligence, it is certainly not the easiest or most direct way to influence intelligence: education, economic and social stability, general health, etc. If everyone on HN stopped having children, I am sure the world would get along just fine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/16/no-research-has-not-established-that-you-inherited-your-intelligence-from-your-mother/#71f3dcf76502 https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/16/no-r...
    - darwin142 8y ago
      From your own source "While maybe half of our intelligence as we currently define and measure it is inherited." So the author admits that probably half of intelligence is inherited. Seems obvious then that education, economic status, environment etc. while contributing are substantially less important that genetics.

by JTbane 8y ago

kanox 8y ago

> instead of spending their billions to fight climate change Does Tesla count or are we still calling Elon a scammer and fraud because he's not producing electric cars fast enough?

zzzzzzzza 8y ago
"not producing electric cars fast enough" Oh, you mean literally lying about how many cars he is producing, fabricating timelines when he knows they are 100% impossible, libel-ing people, lying about self driving and giving a dangerous name (autopilot) to his driver assist, going on insane witchunts, and taking all the credit for other peoples work (e.g. martin eberhard)? All while producing crap tons of scrap and rework in his factory that literally invalidates the thesis that the cars are somehow environmentally friendly? Cars that are great at accelerating and suck at stopping, and thus have a much higher fatality rate than other luxury vehicles (on par with sports cars)? Yep pretty sure we're still calling elon a scammer and a fraud.
TYPE_FASTER 8y ago
I think the two things we should be doing are 1. Working on getting off the planet and 2. Working to save the planet. Elon is working on both. I'm a believer.

ahelwer 8y ago

It's kinda fun to have backup plan upon backup plan. I've definitely gone down this rabbit hole with online account security; was considering buying a safe to store a backup yubikey & some paper passwords, but then I had to consider how I might store the safe combo if I forgot it, and so on - your contingency planning creates more surface area from which additional problems grow.

bryanlarsen 8y ago

I suspect that many of them are putting resources into both fighting it and escaping it. At least that's what I would do.

wolfgke 8y ago

> Pretty saddening to read- instead of spending their billions to fight climate change A pretty good way to fight climate change would be to mostly stop breeding, because fewer people means less energy consumption and thus less climate change.

j88439h84 8y ago
> fewer people means less energy consumption Is that how markets work?
tuesdayrain 8y ago
Unfortunately the people who should consider breeding less will never consider this. And anyone on HN who is conscientious enough to actually stop reproducing because of this post will probably cause a net loss for society by doing so.
- cmiles74 8y ago
  AFAIK, there's no scientific basis for this argument, it strikes me as tone deaf and possibly racist or classist. While there is some basis on which to argue that genes may influence intelligence, it is certainly not the easiest or most direct way to influence intelligence: education, economic and social stability, general health, etc. If everyone on HN stopped having children, I am sure the world would get along just fine. https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/16/no-research-has-not-established-that-you-inherited-your-intelligence-from-your-mother/#71f3dcf76502 https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/16/no-r...
  - darwin142 8y ago
    From your own source "While maybe half of our intelligence as we currently define and measure it is inherited." So the author admits that probably half of intelligence is inherited. Seems obvious then that education, economic status, environment etc. while contributing are substantially less important that genetics.