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I did a little research. It's definitely not something I've ever heard of in my state. Looks likes this is mostly in Ohio? Apparently in the 1990's, almost all

I did a little research. It's definitely not something I've ever heard of in my state. Looks likes this is mostly in Ohio? Apparently in the 1990's, almost all Ohio counties rolled this out. It's been being rolled back ever since. As of a few years ago, only 40 jails in the state charge these fees. Of these, the most expensive six jails charge between $50-$60 per night, 5 charge between $20-48, Some charge $1-$2 per night. $17 Ohio jails charge a booking fee only, usually $10 but up to $40. Some California cities have a pay-for-a-nicer prison scheme, but that's not really the same thing.

jessaustin 8y ago
A few years ago when I was on jury duty, the primary business underway in the "County Justice Complex" seemed to be poor folks making payments on their jail stays. A real issue for some of them was making payments quickly enough to avoid additional jail stays, with the additional penury inherent in missing more work and having to pay more jail fees. This is in Missouri, a state more famed for its many injustices than Ohio is. We'd be safer and happier if we fired 75% of our LEOs tomorrow.
- danielvf 8y ago
  Wow, Missouri's setup with this sounds awful! Unlike Ohio, which only has some mostly short stay jails that charge, Missouri charges statewide, and for prison, which averages six months to two years for an exiting inmate. Unbelievable! https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/missouri-prisoners-vexed-bills-incarceration-costs/ https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/missouri-pri... (As to firing LEO's, I think the research shows that there is a pretty clear correlation between more officers and less crime. So I'm not with you on that one.)
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    I haven't seen any of that research. Overall crime levels are correlated mostly with demographics. A good case has also been made that the prevalence of lead in childhood environments is a leading indicator of crime, but that is also a mostly demographic observation. Incidentally, if you're looking at violent crime at the state level to convince yourself that overpolicing is not a problem, you're missing out on the fact that St. Louis has the highest murder rate in the nation, and #13 in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate

jessaustin 8y ago

A few years ago when I was on jury duty, the primary business underway in the "County Justice Complex" seemed to be poor folks making payments on their jail stays. A real issue for some of them was making payments quickly enough to avoid additional jail stays, with the additional penury inherent in missing more work and having to pay more jail fees. This is in Missouri, a state more famed for its many injustices than Ohio is. We'd be safer and happier if we fired 75% of our LEOs tomorrow.

danielvf 8y ago
Wow, Missouri's setup with this sounds awful! Unlike Ohio, which only has some mostly short stay jails that charge, Missouri charges statewide, and for prison, which averages six months to two years for an exiting inmate. Unbelievable! https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/missouri-prisoners-vexed-bills-incarceration-costs/ https://www.prisonlegalnews.org/news/2017/may/5/missouri-pri... (As to firing LEO's, I think the research shows that there is a pretty clear correlation between more officers and less crime. So I'm not with you on that one.)
- jessaustin 8y ago
  I haven't seen any of that research. Overall crime levels are correlated mostly with demographics. A good case has also been made that the prevalence of lead in childhood environments is a leading indicator of crime, but that is also a mostly demographic observation. Incidentally, if you're looking at violent crime at the state level to convince yourself that overpolicing is not a problem, you're missing out on the fact that St. Louis has the highest murder rate in the nation, and #13 in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate