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I have met the Queen of England exactly zero times.

• whatshisface 8y ago
  The complete wavefunction of you and the Queen of England involves a handshake-like fluctuation in the distant decimal places.
  • qubex 8y ago
    But once either of us dies there won't. Zero can be meaningful in describing the world. I agree infinity, in its truest sense, can't... but zero definitely can.
    • NihilumExNil 8y ago
      No, no, null is not meaningful. That's the whole point. It is meaningful as neutral element of a ring, as center of a coordinate system or as limit of some function, sure, but only in comparison to other values and the other values are all that matters. Not having the other values, having literally nothing, the word ''having'' would be meaningless. There is always something. There's something about nihilism. It's being a self defeating argument, but educating. Then there's constructivism in various senses. There's something about finitism, too, computable numbers and what not. Infinity is rather ... monotonous.
      • vokep 8y ago
        but how is 0 any different from any other number then? If you're going to look at more than just integers, infinity is everywhere, in between every number you can count, and then some! 0 is as meaningless but so is every other number! If you limit to integers or even just whole numbers, 0 is meaningful, just like all the numbers...
        • NihilumExNil 8y ago
          0 is a symbol, but that symbol has quite literally no value. It is special that way.
• vinceguidry 8y ago
  To piggyback, and inflect on, whatshisface's point, the number of times you've met the Queen of England is not a physical thing. You can't describe the Queen of England with a physical function either, even if you could describe her physical body, you can't capture what she means to the United Kingdom, which is at least 40% of the context being dealt with here.
  • qubex 8y ago
    Okay... I meant Elisabeth Alexandra Mary, of House Windsor, born 21 April 1926 at 17 Burton Street, London.
    • simplify 8y ago
      Those are all socially-agreed truths, as opposed to physically demonstrable truths.
  • mikec3010 8y ago
    And the QoE isn't a discrete entity. Her molecules are constantly reacting and atoms are entering and leaving her. One h2o is some distant decimal place percentage of the QoE