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It's just weird how persistent the halucinations are.. Like if you look at a painting it will look totally different than normal, you will probably see shapes o

It's just weird how persistent the halucinations are.. Like if you look at a painting it will look totally different than normal, you will probably see shapes of weird things a bit like Deep Dream's terrifying faces and dogs but a bit different. You can then leave said painting for 2 hours and come back to find the painting has the exact alterations from reality as before. Because of this i'm more inclined to think that it's more like an unfiltered view of reality. Normally the brain will end up with the final image that we call reality but on lsd some of the last filters are missing showing you the world in a different way. This could also explain why perception centers show less activity in that they don't put in the last work to show us the normal image without weird artifacts as faces, animals, fractal patterns and colored light.

robbiep 8y ago
Wouldn’t it make more sense that LSD is a filter, and it sticks for the duration? Or at least, different lenses? This idea of ‘that’s a more real’ reality doesn’t make sense, the visualisations can be different next trip (in the situation you describe) which to me implies the opposite. Btw my favourite trip illusion/hallucination is looking at marble/granite - the veins appear to flow!
- Galaxeblaffer 8y ago
  Actually haven't tripped the same place twice yet, so my pseudoscience anecdotal arguments is probably wrong. It's certainly possible that it's a new/warped/different filter on top but for now i like the other idea better. Especially because of Deep Dream. To me it would make sense that the brain would try and find patterns(faces, animals, familiar shapes etc.) everywhere and then end up with a final image where all bad candidates have been pruned. I wouldn't call it "more real" just more unfiltered and thereby "less real" since you are sometimes seeing stuff that should have been filtered out. My favorites for illusion/hallucinations would everything organic it's just god damn fascinating. Also any type of display(tv, phone) is just mind blowing to look at.
veli_joza 8y ago
The common denominator seems that recognition patterns have much lower threshold for firing. In that sense, there is less cognitive filtering, but perhaps more sensory filtering? Multiple results are competing for attention, which creates the sensation of rushing thoughts. Connections across widely different concepts are made, which makes for 'woah, everything is connected' moments. Visual patterns are recognized over-zealously, which creates hallucinations. It doesn't seem weird to me that pattern recognition machine that's been trained for 15+ years will recognize same patterns for same input few hours later. Note I have never taken lsd, so I don't really know what I'm talking about.

robbiep 8y ago

Wouldn’t it make more sense that LSD is a filter, and it sticks for the duration? Or at least, different lenses? This idea of ‘that’s a more real’ reality doesn’t make sense, the visualisations can be different next trip (in the situation you describe) which to me implies the opposite. Btw my favourite trip illusion/hallucination is looking at marble/granite - the veins appear to flow!

Galaxeblaffer 8y ago
Actually haven't tripped the same place twice yet, so my pseudoscience anecdotal arguments is probably wrong. It's certainly possible that it's a new/warped/different filter on top but for now i like the other idea better. Especially because of Deep Dream. To me it would make sense that the brain would try and find patterns(faces, animals, familiar shapes etc.) everywhere and then end up with a final image where all bad candidates have been pruned. I wouldn't call it "more real" just more unfiltered and thereby "less real" since you are sometimes seeing stuff that should have been filtered out. My favorites for illusion/hallucinations would everything organic it's just god damn fascinating. Also any type of display(tv, phone) is just mind blowing to look at.

veli_joza 8y ago

The common denominator seems that recognition patterns have much lower threshold for firing. In that sense, there is less cognitive filtering, but perhaps more sensory filtering? Multiple results are competing for attention, which creates the sensation of rushing thoughts. Connections across widely different concepts are made, which makes for 'woah, everything is connected' moments. Visual patterns are recognized over-zealously, which creates hallucinations. It doesn't seem weird to me that pattern recognition machine that's been trained for 15+ years will recognize same patterns for same input few hours later. Note I have never taken lsd, so I don't really know what I'm talking about.